Entourage & Exchange 5.5 Question from a "switcher"

I just purchased a Mac Powerbook and thought I had asked all the right questions to all the right people before deciding to switch from a PC, but apparently I missed this. At work we run Exchange 5.5 primarily for shared calendar and contacts. We do not use the email features, except minimal "in-house" email occassionally. I have a problem now

Question 1. Is there any way that I can access Exchange Calendar and Contacts from my Mac without asking for an upgrade to Exchange 2000 (which is unlikely to happen

Question 2. I don't suppose the upcoming 2004 version will address this... Can anyone let me know if it does (without breaking NDA)

Question 3. Is there another solution for sharing my calendar and contacts with a PC running Outlook (or if they need to use another program, what might that be?

thank you so much. This is my first Mac, and I really do like it alot. It is only 2 days old, and I'm still learning

See 'ya
John

Paul
Wed Apr 14 10:51:55 CDT 2004

On 4/14/04 8:06 AM, in article
57D9BDE3-3442-4E4E-A73E-8A338C7BD542@microsoft.com, "John Mabee"
<anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I just purchased a Mac Powerbook and thought I had asked all the right
> questions to all the right people before deciding to switch from a PC, but
> apparently I missed this. At work we run Exchange 5.5 primarily for shared
> calendar and contacts. We do not use the email features, except minimal
> "in-house" email occassionally. I have a problem now!
>
> Question 1. Is there any way that I can access Exchange Calendar and Contacts
> from my Mac without asking for an upgrade to Exchange 2000 (which is unlikely
> to happen)

Afraid not - only mail, by setting it up as IMAP in Entourage and having
Exchange configured for IMAP and SMTP mail.

> Question 2. I don't suppose the upcoming 2004 version will address this...
> Can anyone let me know if it does (without breaking NDA)?

As youi realize, no one can tell you without breaking NDA. However, you
probably realize that newer versions of software never (to my knowledge)
become more backward-compatible than previous versions. If anything, they
sometimes require yet newer versions of interacting software, at least for
particular new features. Entourage Exchange is so new that I'm sure you can
expect Exchange 2000 to go on working fine, but I wouldn't expect it to go
backwards to use 5.5.
>
> Question 3. Is there another solution for sharing my calendar and contacts
> with a PC running Outlook (or if they need to use another program, what might
> that be?)

Definitely. Outlook 2001 for Mac is a free download from MacTopia. It has
far more Exchange features than Entourage - in fact it's pretty close to a
replica of Outlook 2000 for PCs, less a few obscure contact fields and HTML
mail, and works with Exchange 5.5 (and earlier and later). It runs in
Classic emulation in OS X, but Classic is working really, really well in
Panther. It sounds like that's what you need for your Exchange use.
>
> thank you so much. This is my first Mac, and I really do like it alot. It is
> only 2 days old, and I'm still learning.

Welcome to the Mac.


--
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PLEASE always state which version of Entourage you are using - 2001 or X.
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greg
Wed Apr 14 11:03:54 CDT 2004

John,

Entourage X (with Office v. X 10.1.4 Update) uses WebDAV to sync your
contacts and calendar. Since you are using Exchange 5.5 on the backend, this
functionality is not available. So, you would need to upgrade to Exchange
2000 (or later) to get WebDAV functionality.

You can, however, install Outlook 2001. The following article has the
details.

303122 OL2001: How to Obtain Outlook 2001 for Mac
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=303122

But, if you are using OS X you will probably encounter problems running
Outlook 2001. That is why the Entourage update was made for OS X. See the
following article for details.

837344 Product Support for Outlook for Mac
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=837344

Another option is to use a terminal server client on the Mac and connect to
Outlook running on the terminal server.

Hope this helps.

--
Greg Mansius [MSFT]

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.


"John Mabee" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:57D9BDE3-3442-4E4E-A73E-8A338C7BD542@microsoft.com...
> I just purchased a Mac Powerbook and thought I had asked all the right
questions to all the right people before deciding to switch from a PC, but
apparently I missed this. At work we run Exchange 5.5 primarily for shared
calendar and contacts. We do not use the email features, except minimal
"in-house" email occassionally. I have a problem now!
>
> Question 1. Is there any way that I can access Exchange Calendar and
Contacts from my Mac without asking for an upgrade to Exchange 2000 (which
is unlikely to happen)
>
> Question 2. I don't suppose the upcoming 2004 version will address
this... Can anyone let me know if it does (without breaking NDA)?
>
> Question 3. Is there another solution for sharing my calendar and
contacts with a PC running Outlook (or if they need to use another program,
what might that be?)
>
> thank you so much. This is my first Mac, and I really do like it alot.
It is only 2 days old, and I'm still learning.
>
> See 'ya,
> John

John
Wed Apr 14 11:10:25 CDT 2004

On 4/14/04 11:03 AM, in article #QN4WojIEHA.3508@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl, "greg
mansius [MSFT]" <gregmans@online.microsoft.com> wrote:

> John,
>
> Entourage X (with Office v. X 10.1.4 Update) uses WebDAV to sync your
> contacts and calendar. Since you are using Exchange 5.5 on the backend, this
> functionality is not available. So, you would need to upgrade to Exchange
> 2000 (or later) to get WebDAV functionality.
>
> You can, however, install Outlook 2001. The following article has the
> details.
>
> 303122 OL2001: How to Obtain Outlook 2001 for Mac
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=303122
>
> But, if you are using OS X you will probably encounter problems running
> Outlook 2001. That is why the Entourage update was made for OS X. See the
> following article for details.
>
> 837344 Product Support for Outlook for Mac
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=837344
>
> Another option is to use a terminal server client on the Mac and connect to
> Outlook running on the terminal server.
>
> Hope this helps.
Thank you, I will begin lobbying for upgrade to ES 2000...

John
Wed Apr 14 11:12:45 CDT 2004

On 4/14/04 10:51 AM, in article BCA2AC2B.60429%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,
"Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote:

> On 4/14/04 8:06 AM, in article
> 57D9BDE3-3442-4E4E-A73E-8A338C7BD542@microsoft.com, "John Mabee"
> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> I just purchased a Mac Powerbook and thought I had asked all the right
>> questions to all the right people before deciding to switch from a PC, but
>> apparently I missed this. At work we run Exchange 5.5 primarily for shared
>> calendar and contacts. We do not use the email features, except minimal
>> "in-house" email occassionally. I have a problem now!
>>
>> Question 1. Is there any way that I can access Exchange Calendar and
>> Contacts
>> from my Mac without asking for an upgrade to Exchange 2000 (which is unlikely
>> to happen)
>
> Afraid not - only mail, by setting it up as IMAP in Entourage and having
> Exchange configured for IMAP and SMTP mail.
>
>> Question 2. I don't suppose the upcoming 2004 version will address this...
>> Can anyone let me know if it does (without breaking NDA)?
>
> As youi realize, no one can tell you without breaking NDA. However, you
> probably realize that newer versions of software never (to my knowledge)
> become more backward-compatible than previous versions. If anything, they
> sometimes require yet newer versions of interacting software, at least for
> particular new features. Entourage Exchange is so new that I'm sure you can
> expect Exchange 2000 to go on working fine, but I wouldn't expect it to go
> backwards to use 5.5.
>>
>> Question 3. Is there another solution for sharing my calendar and contacts
>> with a PC running Outlook (or if they need to use another program, what might
>> that be?)
>
> Definitely. Outlook 2001 for Mac is a free download from MacTopia. It has
> far more Exchange features than Entourage - in fact it's pretty close to a
> replica of Outlook 2000 for PCs, less a few obscure contact fields and HTML
> mail, and works with Exchange 5.5 (and earlier and later). It runs in
> Classic emulation in OS X, but Classic is working really, really well in
> Panther. It sounds like that's what you need for your Exchange use.
>>
>> thank you so much. This is my first Mac, and I really do like it alot. It
>> is
>> only 2 days old, and I'm still learning.
>
> Welcome to the Mac.
>
Thank you much. I will try Outlook 2001. I am also posting a question in
VirtualPC to see if I can use windows outlook for calendaring until I get
the rest of it figured out.

And thank you for giving me the hint w/out breaking NDA...

I am loving this MAC. Problem is that I really like Entourage also.
(better than outlook)

See 'ya,
John

H
Wed Apr 14 11:54:32 CDT 2004

Yes, this will work. I'm using Windows Outlook under VPC 6.1 and the
calendaring and contacts work the way they're supposed to. Kinda slow,
though, on a PB running at 1.33GHz.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 6:12:45 -1000, John W. Mabee wrote
(in message <BCA2CD2D.4F1%johnathome@cox.net>):

> Thank you much. I will try Outlook 2001. I am also posting a question in
> VirtualPC to see if I can use windows outlook for calendaring until I get
> the rest of it figured out.
>

Michael
Tue Apr 27 11:46:42 CDT 2004

I just have to say the statement below about classic working well in
Panther is not my experience and not what I hear from other users. yes
it works, is an environment you want to work in, no, does Apple
recommend it not really. I visited the Apple store in San Fran and went
to the genius desk for questions about this and they recommended
against using classic as it is just not as stable as native OS x
Panther and it will not communicate well or even recognize changes in
ip address etc.

for me I might as well boot in version 9 to run the damn outlook:2001.

technology roll outs that are not in sync like microsoft and ALL the
other vendors really punish the user, and that is why people do not
spend $$$s to upgrade OS on microsoft.

my experience over 8 years with Macs in a Microsoft natzi IT world.



On 2004-04-14 10:51:55 -0500, Paul Berkowitz <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> said:

> On 4/14/04 8:06 AM, in article
> 57D9BDE3-3442-4E4E-A73E-8A338C7BD542@microsoft.com, "John Mabee"
> <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> I just purchased a Mac Powerbook and thought I had asked all the right
>> questions to all the right people before deciding to switch from a PC, but
>> apparently I missed this. At work we run Exchange 5.5 primarily for shared
>> calendar and contacts. We do not use the email features, except minimal
>> "in-house" email occassionally. I have a problem now!
>>
>> Question 1. Is there any way that I can access Exchange Calendar and Contacts
>> from my Mac without asking for an upgrade to Exchange 2000 (which is unlikely
>> to happen)
>
> Afraid not - only mail, by setting it up as IMAP in Entourage and having
> Exchange configured for IMAP and SMTP mail.
>
>> Question 2. I don't suppose the upcoming 2004 version will address this...
>> Can anyone let me know if it does (without breaking NDA)?
>
> As youi realize, no one can tell you without breaking NDA. However, you
> probably realize that newer versions of software never (to my knowledge)
> become more backward-compatible than previous versions. If anything, they
> sometimes require yet newer versions of interacting software, at least for
> particular new features. Entourage Exchange is so new that I'm sure you can
> expect Exchange 2000 to go on working fine, but I wouldn't expect it to go
> backwards to use 5.5.
>>
>> Question 3. Is there another solution for sharing my calendar and contacts
>> with a PC running Outlook (or if they need to use another program, what might
>> that be?)
>
> Definitely. Outlook 2001 for Mac is a free download from MacTopia. It has
> far more Exchange features than Entourage - in fact it's pretty close to a
> replica of Outlook 2000 for PCs, less a few obscure contact fields and HTML
> mail, and works with Exchange 5.5 (and earlier and later). It runs in
> Classic emulation in OS X, but Classic is working really, really well in
> Panther. It sounds like that's what you need for your Exchange use.
>>
>> thank you so much. This is my first Mac, and I really do like it alot. It is
>> only 2 days old, and I'm still learning.
>
> Welcome to the Mac.