Daylight savings changes and Entourage 2004

Will there be problems once the new Daylight savings time for 2007 goes into
effect, specifically if a reoccurring meeting has been scheduled and will
take place sometime next March?

I have heard that our Window PC admins are applying a update to client
systems so that Outlook 2003 users can schedule meetings for next year and
they will take place at the expected time during the month of March. (We
use Exchange 2003 Servers).

Does Entourage or Outlook 2001 require any patches? Do those applications
use the system time and DSL information provided by the Mac OS?


Jason

William
Mon Nov 27 21:52:48 CST 2006

In article <C190BBB0.999%JHal_Invalid@hotmail.com>,
JHal <JHal_Invalid@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Will there be problems once the new Daylight savings time for 2007 goes into
> effect, specifically if a reoccurring meeting has been scheduled and will
> take place sometime next March?
>
> I have heard that our Window PC admins are applying a update to client
> systems so that Outlook 2003 users can schedule meetings for next year and
> they will take place at the expected time during the month of March. (We
> use Exchange 2003 Servers).
>
> Does Entourage or Outlook 2001 require any patches? Do those applications
> use the system time and DSL information provided by the Mac OS?

Hi Jason!

Outlook for Windows does have a feature to observe Daylight Savings
where Entourage does not. To the best of my knowledge Entourage itself
recognizes time zones but is agnostic when it comes to Standard Time and
Daylight Savings Time. This should be handled by the Mac OS system
itself and not the application.

For more information about the 2007 DST changes have a look at this page
on Microsoft's website
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows/timezone/dst2007.mspx>.

Hope this helps! bill
--
William M. Smith
(Microsoft Interop MVP - Mac/Windows)

Mickey
Mon Nov 27 22:46:12 CST 2006

There is a related issue is documented on the Microsoft Knowledge Base.
Hopefully it will be fixed soon.
<http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=924606>

On 11/27/06 3:58 PM, in article C190BBB0.999%JHal_Invalid@hotmail.com,
"JHal" <JHal_Invalid@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Will there be problems once the new Daylight savings time for 2007 goes into
> effect, specifically if a reoccurring meeting has been scheduled and will
> take place sometime next March?
>
> I have heard that our Window PC admins are applying a update to client
> systems so that Outlook 2003 users can schedule meetings for next year and
> they will take place at the expected time during the month of March. (We
> use Exchange 2003 Servers).
>
> Does Entourage or Outlook 2001 require any patches? Do those applications
> use the system time and DSL information provided by the Mac OS?
>
>
> Jason
>

--
Mickey Stevens (Microsoft MVP for Office:mac)
Office & Mac Resources: <http://home.earthlink.net/~mickey.stevens/>

JHal
Tue Nov 28 08:27:38 CST 2006

Thanks,

Do you have any information about Outlook 2001 or can you point me to a
place that would have information about Outlook 2001 and Daylight Savings in
2007?

Jason


On 11/27/06 10:46 PM, in article C1911B34.31D42%mickey.stevens@mvps.org,
"Mickey Stevens" <mickey.stevens@mvps.org> wrote:

> There is a related issue is documented on the Microsoft Knowledge Base.
> Hopefully it will be fixed soon.
> <http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=924606>
>
> On 11/27/06 3:58 PM, in article C190BBB0.999%JHal_Invalid@hotmail.com,
> "JHal" <JHal_Invalid@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Will there be problems once the new Daylight savings time for 2007 goes into
>> effect, specifically if a reoccurring meeting has been scheduled and will
>> take place sometime next March?
>>
>> I have heard that our Window PC admins are applying a update to client
>> systems so that Outlook 2003 users can schedule meetings for next year and
>> they will take place at the expected time during the month of March. (We
>> use Exchange 2003 Servers).
>>
>> Does Entourage or Outlook 2001 require any patches? Do those applications
>> use the system time and DSL information provided by the Mac OS?
>>
>>
>> Jason
>>

wbl2745
Tue Dec 26 11:00:14 CST 2006

I just downloaded Entourage (Office 2004) 11.3.2 and am running Mac OS
X 10.4.8 and they still haven't fixed the daylight savings problem.
Interestingly, when I export my calendar to iCal the times are correct.


Is Microsoft ever going to fix this? Are they aware of the problem?

Mickey
Tue Dec 26 15:37:42 CST 2006

This is a known issue that is documented on the Microsoft Knowledge Base.
They haven't made any announcement as to when the problem will be fixed;
hopefully it will be fixed in the next update since March isn't too far
away.
<http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=924606>

On 12/26/06 11:00 AM, in article
1167152414.624780.99350@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com, "wbl2745@gmail.com"
<wbl2745@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just downloaded Entourage (Office 2004) 11.3.2 and am running Mac OS
> X 10.4.8 and they still haven't fixed the daylight savings problem.
> Interestingly, when I export my calendar to iCal the times are correct.
>
>
> Is Microsoft ever going to fix this? Are they aware of the problem?
>

--
Mickey Stevens (Microsoft MVP for Office:mac)
Office & Mac Resources: <http://home.earthlink.net/~mickey.stevens/>

Kathy
Wed Jan 03 04:54:27 CST 2007

The article you reference notes a problem beginning on March 11, 2007 but
does not provide a complete description of what happens on my system. To
elaborate, the display time is wrong for several weeks, resolving back to
normal in early April. The calendar displays correctly throughout the
summer into fall, then goes awry for a period near the end of October 2007.
The problem magically disappears in November 2007, only to reappear again in
March 2008.

It seems pretty clear that there is a daylight-savings-time conversion bug
in the code. Anyone else note similar experiences?

Mac OS X v10.4.8, msEntourage 2004 for Mac v11.3.2


On 12/26/06 3:37 PM, in article C1B6F246.33804%mickey.stevens@mvps.org,
"Mickey Stevens" <mickey.stevens@mvps.org> wrote:

> This is a known issue that is documented on the Microsoft Knowledge Base.
> They haven't made any announcement as to when the problem will be fixed;
> hopefully it will be fixed in the next update since March isn't too far
> away.
> <http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=924606>
>
> On 12/26/06 11:00 AM, in article
> 1167152414.624780.99350@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com, "wbl2745@gmail.com"
> <wbl2745@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I just downloaded Entourage (Office 2004) 11.3.2 and am running Mac OS
>> X 10.4.8 and they still haven't fixed the daylight savings problem.
>> Interestingly, when I export my calendar to iCal the times are correct.
>>
>>
>> Is Microsoft ever going to fix this? Are they aware of the problem?
>>

JE
Wed Jan 03 08:04:53 CST 2007

In article <C1C0E783.1B5%mkjerde@comcast.net>,
Kathy Jerde <mkjerde@comcast.net> wrote:

> The article you reference notes a problem beginning on March 11, 2007 but
> does not provide a complete description of what happens on my system. To
> elaborate, the display time is wrong for several weeks, resolving back to
> normal in early April. The calendar displays correctly throughout the
> summer into fall, then goes awry for a period near the end of October 2007.
> The problem magically disappears in November 2007, only to reappear again in
> March 2008.
>
> It seems pretty clear that there is a daylight-savings-time conversion bug
> in the code. Anyone else note similar experiences?

Yes. Everyone else using US Daylight Savings Time settings should note
exactly the same experience.

The problem is NOT a bug (an unexpected error). It stems from Congress
changing the dates that Daylight Savings Time is in effect, starting
this year.

So the same problem that occurs in March (i.e., moving DST-start from
the 1st Sunday in April to the 2nd Sunday in March) is the cause of the
problem in October (when DST-end goes from the last Sunday in October to
the 1st Sunday in November).

As Mickey said, MS is aware of the issue, but hasn't yet issued an
update to fix it. I've no idea why it's taken this long.

pete
Thu Jan 04 13:57:03 CST 2007

There is a hotfix available for Exchange for test environments
available now, but it hasn't been certified for production use. See
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/timezone/exchange.mspx


I figure by the time they fix Entourage we'll be past the affected
dates anyway.

-p


> As Mickey said, MS is aware of the issue, but hasn't yet issued an
> update to fix it. I've no idea why it's taken this long.

jvv2
Tue Jan 09 20:54:22 CST 2007


I think this is fixed in the 11.3.3 update. I had a similar
strangeness that seemed to appear and disappear. It was in the
calendar in projects, but not in the regular calendar. And then I
"fixed" the problem, and it showed up in the regular calendar.
Everything seems fine now.


pete c. wrote:
> There is a hotfix available for Exchange for test environments
> available now, but it hasn't been certified for production use. See
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/timezone/exchange.mspx
>
>
> I figure by the time they fix Entourage we'll be past the affected
> dates anyway.
>
> -p
>
>
> > As Mickey said, MS is aware of the issue, but hasn't yet issued an
> > update to fix it. I've no idea why it's taken this long.

JE
Tue Jan 09 21:24:46 CST 2007

In article <1168397662.652323.66300@o58g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
jvv2@mindspring.com wrote:

> I think this is fixed in the 11.3.3 update. I had a similar
> strangeness that seemed to appear and disappear. It was in the
> calendar in projects, but not in the regular calendar. And then I
> "fixed" the problem, and it showed up in the regular calendar.
> Everything seems fine now.

Yup, it's fixed in 11.3.3.