Complex HTML emails

I dont actually have a copy of entourage in front of me
but have been asked by a client how he can send complex
HTML emails ie is there a way that I can send him a peice
of HTML which he can paste into a mail like you can in
edit mode in outlook express? If so can somebody tell me
exactly which buttons to press so I pass on th eadvice.

thanks in advance
ashley

Paul
Thu May 13 08:48:54 CDT 2004

On 5/13/04 5:11 AM, in article c79701c438e3$5c074b10$a601280a@phx.gbl,
"Ashley fletcher" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

> I dont actually have a copy of entourage in front of me
> but have been asked by a client how he can send complex
> HTML emails ie is there a way that I can send him a peice
> of HTML which he can paste into a mail like you can in
> edit mode in outlook express? If so can somebody tell me
> exactly which buttons to press so I pass on th eadvice.

Entourage does not have the capability of creating complex HTML (containing
tables and/or links to graphics on web servers).

There are now two ways:

1) Get my script "Send Complex HTML X" (or "Send Complex HTML E" for
Entourage 2001 in OS 9) and follow the instructions in the ReadMe. But the
recipient will not be able to to paste it into another message, and
especially not edit it within Entourage. He would have to use the same
techniques himself. Its source could be edited in an HTML editor. The page -
ready to send - would either have to be installed on a web server and on
display in Internet Explorer, or else it would have to be a finished HTML
document on his computer.

2) Upgrade to Office 2004, available this week. You can now make documents
however you'd like in Word, and then choose File/Send to Mail Recipient (as
HTML), and Entourage will send it as complex HTML. So you could make the
document in Word (maybe even Word Windows), send him the Word document as an
attachment, then he could open it in Word, edit it, and send it on as HTML.

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP Entourage
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AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

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Mickey
Thu May 13 17:28:23 CDT 2004

On 5/13/04 8:48 AM, in article BCC8CAD6.64127%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,
"Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote:

> On 5/13/04 5:11 AM, in article c79701c438e3$5c074b10$a601280a@phx.gbl,
> "Ashley fletcher" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> I dont actually have a copy of entourage in front of me
>> but have been asked by a client how he can send complex
>> HTML emails ie is there a way that I can send him a peice
>> of HTML which he can paste into a mail like you can in
>> edit mode in outlook express? If so can somebody tell me
>> exactly which buttons to press so I pass on th eadvice.
>
> Entourage does not have the capability of creating complex HTML (containing
> tables and/or links to graphics on web servers).
>
> There are now two ways:
>
> 1) Get my script "Send Complex HTML X" (or "Send Complex HTML E" for
> Entourage 2001 in OS 9)
>
> 2) Upgrade to Office 2004, available this week. You can now make documents
> however you'd like in Word, and then choose File/Send to Mail Recipient (as
> HTML), and Entourage will send it as complex HTML. So you could make the
> document in Word (maybe even Word Windows), send him the Word document as an
> attachment, then he could open it in Word, edit it, and send it on as HTML.

That's true. Actually, you can open any HTML document in Word (be sure to
select Show All Documents in the Open window), and then use the "Send to
Mail Recipient (as HTML)" to send it in e-mail.

In your situation, you could actually send your client HTML code to paste in
and send. Send the client the HTML code, and have him copy it (Command-C).
Have him launch Word, create a new document, and use the File -> Save as Web
Page to convert the document to HTML format. Then, he can go to View ->
HTML Source, select all (Command-A), delete the existing code, and paste in
(Command-V) the code you want him to send. Then, he should go back to the
regular view (select View -> HTML Source again), and run the "Send to Mail
Recipient (as HTML)" command again to send the code in Entourage.

--
Mickey Stevens (Microsoft MVP for Office:mac)
PowerPoint FAQ featuring PowerPoint:mac: <http://www.pptfaq.com/>
Entourage Help Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>

The
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Just a caveat to this: when you send the HTML, the message body in Entourage
(2004) is not editable. So if you need to send some information along with
the complex HTML, you'd have to do it in Word.

In addition, if you do the ³Send as HTML..² and decide not to send it,
Entourage will automatically save it as a draft. I was trying this out a few
times before I noticed I had 15 items in my Drafts folder!

On 5/13/04 15:28, in article BCC960B7.38A5%mickey.stevens@mvps.org, "Mickey
Stevens" <mickey.stevens@mvps.org> wrote:

> On 5/13/04 8:48 AM, in article BCC8CAD6.64127%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,
> "Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote:
>
>> > On 5/13/04 5:11 AM, in article c79701c438e3$5c074b10$a601280a@phx.gbl,
>> > "Ashley fletcher" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >
>>> >> I dont actually have a copy of entourage in front of me
>>> >> but have been asked by a client how he can send complex
>>> >> HTML emails ie is there a way that I can send him a peice
>>> >> of HTML which he can paste into a mail like you can in
>>> >> edit mode in outlook express? If so can somebody tell me
>>> >> exactly which buttons to press so I pass on th eadvice.
>> >
>> > Entourage does not have the capability of creating complex HTML (containing
>> > tables and/or links to graphics on web servers).
>> >
>> > There are now two ways:
>> >
>> > 1) Get my script "Send Complex HTML X" (or "Send Complex HTML E" for
>> > Entourage 2001 in OS 9)
>> >
>> > 2) Upgrade to Office 2004, available this week. You can now make documents
>> > however you'd like in Word, and then choose File/Send to Mail Recipient (as
>> > HTML), and Entourage will send it as complex HTML. So you could make the
>> > document in Word (maybe even Word Windows), send him the Word document as
>> an
>> > attachment, then he could open it in Word, edit it, and send it on as HTML.
>
> That's true. Actually, you can open any HTML document in Word (be sure to
> select Show All Documents in the Open window), and then use the "Send to
> Mail Recipient (as HTML)" to send it in e-mail.
>
> In your situation, you could actually send your client HTML code to paste in
> and send. Send the client the HTML code, and have him copy it (Command-C).
> Have him launch Word, create a new document, and use the File -> Save as Web
> Page to convert the document to HTML format. Then, he can go to View ->
> HTML Source, select all (Command-A), delete the existing code, and paste in
> (Command-V) the code you want him to send. Then, he should go back to the
> regular view (select View -> HTML Source again), and run the "Send to Mail
> Recipient (as HTML)" command again to send the code in Entourage.

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Just a caveat to thi=
s: when you send the HTML, the message body in Entourage (2004) is not edita=
ble. So if you need to send some information along with the complex HTML, yo=
u'd have to do it in Word. 
 
In addition, if you do the “Send as HTML..” and decide not to s=
end it, Entourage will automatically save it as a draft. I was trying this o=
ut a few times before I noticed I had 15 items in my Drafts folder! 
 
 
On 5/13/04 15:28, in article BCC960B7.38A5%mickey.stevens@mvps.org, "M=
ickey Stevens" <mickey.stevens@mvps.org> wrote: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>=
On 5/13/04 8:48 AM, in article BCC8CAD6.64127=
%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, 
"Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote: 
 
> On 5/13/04 5:11 AM, in article c79701c438e3$5c074b10$a601280a@phx.gbl,=
 
> "Ashley fletcher" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com&gt=
; wrote: 
> 
>> I dont actually have a copy of entourage in front of me 
>> but have been asked by a client how he can send complex 
>> HTML emails ie is there a way that I can send him a peice 
>> of HTML which he can paste into a mail like you can in 
>> edit mode in outlook express? If so can somebody tell me 
>> exactly which buttons to press so I pass on th eadvice. 
> 
> Entourage does not have the capability of creating complex HTML (conta=
ining 
> tables and/or links to graphics on web servers). 
> 
> There are now two ways: 
> 
> 1) Get my script "Send Complex HTML X" (or "Send Comple=
x HTML E" for 
> Entourage 2001 in OS 9) 
> 
> 2) Upgrade to Office 2004, available this week. You can now make docum=
ents 
> however you'd like in Word, and then choose File/Send to Mail Recipien=
t (as 
> HTML), and Entourage will send it as complex HTML. So you could make t=
he 
> document in Word (maybe even Word Windows), send him the Word document=
as an 
> attachment, then he could open it in Word, edit it, and send it on as =
HTML. 
 
That's true.  Actually, you can open any HTML document in Word (be sur=
e to 
select Show All Documents in the Open window), and then use the "Send =
to 
Mail Recipient (as HTML)" to send it in e-mail. 
 
In your situation, you could actually send your client HTML code to paste i=
n 
and send.  Send the client the HTML code, and have him copy it (Comman=
d-C). 
Have him launch Word, create a new document, and use the File -> Save as=
Web 
Page to convert the document to HTML format.  Then, he can go to View =
-> 
HTML Source, select all (Command-A), delete the existing code, and paste in=
 
(Command-V) the code you want him to send.  Then, he should go back to=
the 
regular view (select View -> HTML Source again), and run the "Send =
to Mail 
Recipient (as HTML)" command again to send the code in Entourage. 
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It also means you can't send an attachment with it. If you need to include
an attachment, you'd better go back to my "Send Complex HTML X" script.

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP Entourage
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

Please "Reply To Newsgroup" to reply to this message. Emails will be
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From: The Terminator <daterminator@mac.com>
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:27:08 -0700
Subject: Re: Complex HTML emails

Just a caveat to this: when you send the HTML, the message body in Entourage
(2004) is not editable. So if you need to send some information along with
the complex HTML, you'd have to do it in Word.

In addition, if you do the ³Send as HTML..² and decide not to send it,
Entourage will automatically save it as a draft. I was trying this out a few
times before I noticed I had 15 items in my Drafts folder!

On 5/13/04 15:28, in article BCC960B7.38A5%mickey.stevens@mvps.org, "Mickey
Stevens" <mickey.stevens@mvps.org> wrote:

> On 5/13/04 8:48 AM, in article BCC8CAD6.64127%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com,
> "Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote:
>
>> > On 5/13/04 5:11 AM, in article c79701c438e3$5c074b10$a601280a@phx.gbl,
>> > "Ashley fletcher" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >
>>> >> I dont actually have a copy of entourage in front of me
>>> >> but have been asked by a client how he can send complex
>>> >> HTML emails ie is there a way that I can send him a peice
>>> >> of HTML which he can paste into a mail like you can in
>>> >> edit mode in outlook express? If so can somebody tell me
>>> >> exactly which buttons to press so I pass on th eadvice.
>> >
>> > Entourage does not have the capability of creating complex HTML (containing
>> > tables and/or links to graphics on web servers).
>> >
>> > There are now two ways:
>> >
>> > 1) Get my script "Send Complex HTML X" (or "Send Complex HTML E" for
>> > Entourage 2001 in OS 9)
>> >
>> > 2) Upgrade to Office 2004, available this week. You can now make documents
>> > however you'd like in Word, and then choose File/Send to Mail Recipient (as
>> > HTML), and Entourage will send it as complex HTML. So you could make the
>> > document in Word (maybe even Word Windows), send him the Word document as
>> an
>> > attachment, then he could open it in Word, edit it, and send it on as HTML.
>
> That's true. Actually, you can open any HTML document in Word (be sure to
> select Show All Documents in the Open window), and then use the "Send to
> Mail Recipient (as HTML)" to send it in e-mail.
>
> In your situation, you could actually send your client HTML code to paste in
> and send. Send the client the HTML code, and have him copy it (Command-C).
> Have him launch Word, create a new document, and use the File -> Save as Web
> Page to convert the document to HTML format. Then, he can go to View ->
> HTML Source, select all (Command-A), delete the existing code, and paste in
> (Command-V) the code you want him to send. Then, he should go back to the
> regular view (select View -> HTML Source again), and run the "Send to Mail
> Recipient (as HTML)" command again to send the code in Entourage.

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It al=
so means you can't send an attachment with it. If you need to include an att=
achment, you'd better go back to my "Send Complex HTML X" script.<=
BR>
 
-- 
Paul Berkowitz 
MVP Entourage 
Entourage FAQ Page: <a href=3D"http://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html"><ht=
tp://www.entourage.mvps.org/toc.html></a> 
AppleScripts for Entourage: <a href=3D"http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/=
"><http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/></a> 
 
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Newsgroups: microsoft.public.mac.office.entourage 
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 16:27:08 -0700 
Subject: Re: Complex HTML emails 
 
Just a caveat to this:=
when you send the HTML, the message body in Entourage (2004) is not editabl=
e. So if you need to send some information along with the complex HTML, you'=
d have to do it in Word. 
 
In addition, if you do the “Send as HTML..” and decide not to s=
end it, Entourage will automatically save it as a draft. I was trying this o=
ut a few times before I noticed I had 15 items in my Drafts folder! 
 
 
On 5/13/04 15:28, in article BCC960B7.38A5%mickey.stevens@mvps.org, "M=
ickey Stevens" <mickey.stevens@mvps.org> wrote: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><SP=
AN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>On 5/13/04 8:48 AM, in article BCC8CAD6.64127%be=
rkowit@spoof_silcom.com, 
"Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote: 
 
> On 5/13/04 5:11 AM, in article c79701c438e3$5c074b10$a601280a@phx.gbl,=
 
> "Ashley fletcher" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com&gt=
; wrote: 
> 
>> I dont actually have a copy of entourage in front of me 
>> but have been asked by a client how he can send complex 
>> HTML emails ie is there a way that I can send him a peice 
>> of HTML which he can paste into a mail like you can in 
>> edit mode in outlook express? If so can somebody tell me 
>> exactly which buttons to press so I pass on th eadvice. 
> 
> Entourage does not have the capability of creating complex HTML (conta=
ining 
> tables and/or links to graphics on web servers). 
> 
> There are now two ways: 
> 
> 1) Get my script "Send Complex HTML X" (or "Send Comple=
x HTML E" for 
> Entourage 2001 in OS 9) 
> 
> 2) Upgrade to Office 2004, available this week. You can now make docum=
ents 
> however you'd like in Word, and then choose File/Send to Mail Recipien=
t (as 
> HTML), and Entourage will send it as complex HTML. So you could make t=
he 
> document in Word (maybe even Word Windows), send him the Word document=
as an 
> attachment, then he could open it in Word, edit it, and send it on as =
HTML. 
 
That's true.  Actually, you can open any HTML document in Word (be sur=
e to 
select Show All Documents in the Open window), and then use the "Send =
to 
Mail Recipient (as HTML)" to send it in e-mail. 
 
In your situation, you could actually send your client HTML code to paste i=
n 
and send.  Send the client the HTML code, and have him copy it (Comman=
d-C). 
Have him launch Word, create a new document, and use the File -> Save as=
Web 
Page to convert the document to HTML format.  Then, he can go to View =
-> 
HTML Source, select all (Command-A), delete the existing code, and paste in=
 
(Command-V) the code you want him to send.  Then, he should go back to=
the 
regular view (select View -> HTML Source again), and run the "Send =
to Mail 
Recipient (as HTML)" command again to send the code in Entourage. 
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Thu Jun 03 23:28:25 CDT 2004

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Paul,

Why is it that the HTML formatting is ruined when you view the message in
the Outbox?

On 5/25/04 21:55, in article BCD97161.65CDF%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, "Paul
Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote:

> It also means you can't send an attachment with it. If you need to include an
> attachment, you'd better go back to my "Send Complex HTML X" script.

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Paul, 
 
Why is it that the HTML formatting is ruined when you view the message in t=
he Outbox? 
 
 
On 5/25/04 21:55, in article BCD97161.65CDF%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, &quo=
t;Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>It also means you can't send an attachme=
nt with it. If you need to include an attachment, you'd better go back to my=
"Send Complex HTML X" script. 
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Fri Jun 04 09:40:57 CDT 2004

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On 6/3/04 9:28 PM, in article BCE54879.2111%daterminator@mac.com, "The
Terminator" <daterminator@mac.com> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> Why is it that the HTML formatting is ruined when you view the message in the
> Outbox?
>
>
> On 5/25/04 21:55, in article BCD97161.65CDF%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, "Paul
> Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote:
>
>> It also means you can't send an attachment with it. If you need to include an
>> attachment, you'd better go back to my "Send Complex HTML X" script.
>
>

I'm not sure what the exact mechanism is, but I think viewing it before it's
sent forces the native ("simple") HTML editor which can't send complex HTML
and alters the source to something it can cope with (basically displays some
of the HTML coding as message text) before sending. The whole script is a
trick to get around that process and you ruin it by displaying before
sending, as you're warned in the ReadMe.

--
Paul Berkowitz
MVP Entourage
Entourage FAQ Page: <http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html>
AppleScripts for Entourage: <http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/>

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On 6/=
3/04 9:28 PM, in article BCE54879.2111%daterminator@mac.com, "The Termi=
nator" <daterminator@mac.com> wrote: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE>Paul, 
 
Why is it that the HTML formatting is ruined when you view the message in t=
he Outbox? 
 
 
On 5/25/04 21:55, in article BCD97161.65CDF%berkowit@spoof_silcom.com, &quo=
t;Paul Berkowitz" <berkowit@spoof_silcom.com> wrote: 
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><SP=
AN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'>It also means you can't send an attachment with =
it. If you need to include an attachment, you'd better go back to my "S=
end Complex HTML X" script. 
</BLOCKQUOTE> 
 
</BLOCKQUOTE> 
I'm not sure what the exact mechanism is, but I think viewing it before it'=
s sent forces the native ("simple") HTML editor which can't send c=
omplex HTML and alters the source to something it can cope with (basically d=
isplays some of the HTML coding as message text) before sending. The whole s=
cript is a trick to get around that process and you ruin it by displaying be=
fore sending, as you're warned in the ReadMe. 
 
-- 
Paul Berkowitz 
MVP Entourage 
Entourage FAQ Page: <a href=3D"http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html">=
<http://www.entourage.mvps.org/faq/index.html></a> 
AppleScripts for Entourage: <a href=3D"http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/=
"><http://macscripter.net/scriptbuilders/></a> 
 
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