Hello:
I 've developed NT driver for virtual disk. (actually, I started from
Bo Brant=E9n example,
http://www.acc.umu.se/~bosse/ and just made some changes.) The driver
is working fine on most computers. However on some computers it
significally slows down the login process, sometimes by 2-3 minutes.
after the login is done it is working just fine.

All the computers I am speaking about are Intel 2 up to 3 Ghz with XP
Home or XP Pro installed.


I do not see any errors in EventViewer.


The driver was started not by "net start",but by another NT service ,
using CreateService / StartService


What could be a reason for this strange behaviour ?=20
Thanks=20
AC

Re: Why my NT driver slows down XP login by Don

Don
Sun Jun 25 07:46:18 CDT 2006

You probably will not get much help on this, since the code you are using
was stolen by Bo Branten and illegally GPL'd. This has been discussed in
the past, both here and more recently on the NTDEV list at
http://www.osronline.com


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<alican1812@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hello:
I 've developed NT driver for virtual disk. (actually, I started from
Bo Brantén example,
http://www.acc.umu.se/~bosse/ and just made some changes.) The driver
is working fine on most computers. However on some computers it
significally slows down the login process, sometimes by 2-3 minutes.
after the login is done it is working just fine.

All the computers I am speaking about are Intel 2 up to 3 Ghz with XP
Home or XP Pro installed.


I do not see any errors in EventViewer.


The driver was started not by "net start",but by another NT service ,
using CreateService / StartService


What could be a reason for this strange behaviour ?
Thanks
AC



Re: Why my NT driver slows down XP login by alican1812

alican1812
Sun Jun 25 08:19:49 CDT 2006

OK, Thanks.
Then what should I do ? Who is the real author ? Should I get
permission from him ? How could it be that all the Net knows the code
was stolen and still it is available ?
I think I am not the first person starting to learn driver development
with this code, and I am stuck now in the end of my project with the
illegal code ?!

:-(((((
AC

Don Burn wrote:
> You probably will not get much help on this, since the code you are using
> was stolen by Bo Branten and illegally GPL'd. This has been discussed in
> the past, both here and more recently on the NTDEV list at
> http://www.osronline.com
>
>
> --
> Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> http://www.windrvr.com
> Remove StopSpam from the email to reply
>
>
>
> <alican1812@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151229455.909888.101390@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> Hello:
> I 've developed NT driver for virtual disk. (actually, I started from
> Bo Brant=E9n example,
> http://www.acc.umu.se/~bosse/ and just made some changes.) The driver
> is working fine on most computers. However on some computers it
> significally slows down the login process, sometimes by 2-3 minutes.
> after the login is done it is working just fine.
>
> All the computers I am speaking about are Intel 2 up to 3 Ghz with XP
> Home or XP Pro installed.
>
>
> I do not see any errors in EventViewer.
>
>
> The driver was started not by "net start",but by another NT service ,
> using CreateService / StartService
>
>=20
> What could be a reason for this strange behaviour ?
> Thanks
> AC


Re: Why my NT driver slows down XP login by Don

Don
Sun Jun 25 08:35:33 CDT 2006

The real author is "Jamey Kirby" <jkirby@rocketdivision.com>, he used to
give out the code, Bo took Jamey's code removed the copyrights and added
GPL. The problem is the only way to stop Bo is to sue him, which
unfortunately would cost a lot of money and with no return. It is
unfortunate that the open source efforts that will sue someone for stealing
GPL'd code, will not turn their attention to the problem of comercial code
being GPL'd.


--
Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
http://www.windrvr.com
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<alican1812@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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OK, Thanks.
Then what should I do ? Who is the real author ? Should I get
permission from him ? How could it be that all the Net knows the code
was stolen and still it is available ?
I think I am not the first person starting to learn driver development
with this code, and I am stuck now in the end of my project with the
illegal code ?!

:-(((((
AC

Don Burn wrote:
> You probably will not get much help on this, since the code you are using
> was stolen by Bo Branten and illegally GPL'd. This has been discussed in
> the past, both here and more recently on the NTDEV list at
> http://www.osronline.com
>
>
> --
> Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> http://www.windrvr.com
> Remove StopSpam from the email to reply
>
>
>
> <alican1812@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1151229455.909888.101390@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com...
> Hello:
> I 've developed NT driver for virtual disk. (actually, I started from
> Bo Brantén example,
> http://www.acc.umu.se/~bosse/ and just made some changes.) The driver
> is working fine on most computers. However on some computers it
> significally slows down the login process, sometimes by 2-3 minutes.
> after the login is done it is working just fine.
>
> All the computers I am speaking about are Intel 2 up to 3 Ghz with XP
> Home or XP Pro installed.
>
>
> I do not see any errors in EventViewer.
>
>
> The driver was started not by "net start",but by another NT service ,
> using CreateService / StartService
>
>
> What could be a reason for this strange behaviour ?
> Thanks
> AC



Re: Why my NT driver slows down XP login by alican1812

alican1812
Sun Jun 25 10:15:09 CDT 2006

Thanks, Dan, you cleared things for me once again.
I will try to contact Jamey before I start to rewrite the code.

Just the question that doesn't seem to be related to this driver
specifically:
What is the best way to start NT legacy driver: "net start" or
CreateService /OpenService ?
"Net start" sometimes request reboot for driver to start functioning,
CreateService /OpenService doesn't but sometimes it is terribly slow...
Thanks,
AC

Don Burn wrote:
> The real author is "Jamey Kirby" <jkirby@rocketdivision.com>, he used to
> give out the code, Bo took Jamey's code removed the copyrights and added
> GPL. The problem is the only way to stop Bo is to sue him, which
> unfortunately would cost a lot of money and with no return. It is
> unfortunate that the open source efforts that will sue someone for stealing
> GPL'd code, will not turn their attention to the problem of comercial code
> being GPL'd.
>
>
> --
> Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
> Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
> http://www.windrvr.com
> Remove StopSpam from the email to reply


Re: Why my NT driver slows down XP login by Don

Don
Sun Jun 25 10:20:13 CDT 2006

Net start is basically the service calls, so there should not be a
significant difference. You might also try the OSR Driver Loader
http://www.osronline.com/article.cfm?article=157 (Note: if you have not
been to the site you have to register the first time, this is free).


--
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Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
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<alican1812@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks, Dan, you cleared things for me once again.
> I will try to contact Jamey before I start to rewrite the code.
>
> Just the question that doesn't seem to be related to this driver
> specifically:
> What is the best way to start NT legacy driver: "net start" or
> CreateService /OpenService ?
> "Net start" sometimes request reboot for driver to start functioning,
> CreateService /OpenService doesn't but sometimes it is terribly slow...
> Thanks,
> AC
>
> Don Burn wrote:
>> The real author is "Jamey Kirby" <jkirby@rocketdivision.com>, he used to
>> give out the code, Bo took Jamey's code removed the copyrights and added
>> GPL. The problem is the only way to stop Bo is to sue him, which
>> unfortunately would cost a lot of money and with no return. It is
>> unfortunate that the open source efforts that will sue someone for
>> stealing
>> GPL'd code, will not turn their attention to the problem of comercial
>> code
>> being GPL'd.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Don Burn (MVP, Windows DDK)
>> Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
>> http://www.windrvr.com
>> Remove StopSpam from the email to reply
>



Re: Why my NT driver slows down XP login by Maxim

Maxim
Sun Jun 25 11:10:27 CDT 2006

> What is the best way to start NT legacy driver: "net start" or
> CreateService /OpenService ?

The same.
"net start" calls StartService internally.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com


Re: Why my NT driver slows down XP login by alican1812

alican1812
Sun Jun 25 13:41:51 CDT 2006

Maxim:
Thanks for helping.
If it is the same, why "net start" requests reboot ? As (and if) I
understand it, CreateService adds my driver to SCM database, then there
is not need in updating it, then no need for reboot.
Another question: when I am doing "net start", I can see my driver in
the Device Manager (when checking View Non plug and Play devices).
However when I am starting it using CreateService, I couldn't.

Thanks again,
AC

Maxim S. Shatskih wrote:
> > What is the best way to start NT legacy driver: "net start" or
> > CreateService /OpenService ?
>
> The same.
> "net start" calls StartService internally.
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com


Re: Why my NT driver slows down XP login by Norman

Norman
Sun Jun 25 22:17:25 CDT 2006

"Don Burn" <burn@stopspam.acm.org> wrote in message
news:uajXAxFmGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> It is unfortunate that the open source efforts that will sue someone for
> stealing GPL'd code, will not turn their attention to the problem of
> comercial code being GPL'd.

I agree, that is unfortunate. I wonder if there's a reason for this
unfortunate situation though. Let's see...

"Don Burn" <burn@stopspam.acm.org> wrote in message
news:uajXAxFmGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> The problem is the only way to stop Bo is to sue him, which unfortunately
> would cost a lot of money and with no return.


Re: Why my NT driver slows down XP login by Philip

Philip
Mon Jun 26 05:58:07 CDT 2006


"Norman Diamond" <ndiamond@community.nospam> wrote in message
news:eXkkO8MmGHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> "Don Burn" <burn@stopspam.acm.org> wrote in message
> news:uajXAxFmGHA.4776@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> It is unfortunate that the open source efforts that will sue someone for
>> stealing GPL'd code, will not turn their attention to the problem of
>> comercial code being GPL'd.
>
> I agree, that is unfortunate. I wonder if there's a reason for this
> unfortunate situation though. Let's see...

You mean that somebody has the audacity to request payment for their
programming work instead of joining Richard Stallman in the free collective?