Windows DDK Suite 3.0

hi,, all...
i'm new here...

i'm trying to make an application such as magictune of portrait
displays...
i plant a micro controller in the display.. that is configured i2c
slave device..
connect pin 12, 15 of vga cable to the mcu..
i'm trying to send some simple data to the mcu...
i'm using vc++ 6.0

i found that i need video.h from msdn..
so,, i got windows ddk suite 3.0 and installed it..
the header file, video.h is in

C:\WINDDK\3790\inc\ddk\wxp

and in vc++ 6.0,,
tools -> options..., directories tab..
i put above directory in the list of "include files" section..

then i put

// some header files
#include <video.h>
// some header files

and tried to compile..
then i got 102 errors that all of them came from video.h and videoagp.h
that are newly included headers..
did i do something wrong to configure building environment?
is there some special thing to do in order to compile ddk headers?
thank you very much...

best regards,
/u

---------------
--------------------Configuration: VWCtrl - Win32
Debug--------------------
Compiling...
VWCtrlDlg.cpp
c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\videoagp.h(35) : error C2065:
'PAGP_RESERVE_PHYSICAL' : undeclared identifier
c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\videoagp.h(35) : error C2100: illegal
indirection
c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\videoagp.h(35) : error C2501:
'PHYSICAL_ADDRESS' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\videoagp.h(35) : error C2143: syntax error :
missing ';' before '('
c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\videoagp.h(36) : error C2226: syntax error :
unexpected type 'PVOID'
c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\videoagp.h(40) : error C2059: syntax error :
')'
.
.
.
c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\video.h(1500) : error C2146: syntax error :
missing ';' before identifier 'InterfaceReference'
c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\video.h(1500) : error C2501:
'PINTERFACE_REFERENCE' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\video.h(1500) : fatal error C1003: error
count exceeds 100; stopping compilation
Error executing cl.exe.

VWCtrl.exe - 102 error(s), 0 warning(s)

---------------

Don
Thu Nov 17 11:01:29 CST 2005

You should be building with the DDK's build environment. If you want to
work out of visual studio, use DDKBUILD from http://www.hollistech.com/.
You cannot use Visual Studio 6.0's compiler for building this stuff.


--
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Windows 2k/XP/2k3 Filesystem and Driver Consulting
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"undergnd" <jhk@dti3d.com> wrote in message
news:1132245860.981715.206610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> hi,, all...
> i'm new here...
>
> i'm trying to make an application such as magictune of portrait
> displays...
> i plant a micro controller in the display.. that is configured i2c
> slave device..
> connect pin 12, 15 of vga cable to the mcu..
> i'm trying to send some simple data to the mcu...
> i'm using vc++ 6.0
>
> i found that i need video.h from msdn..
> so,, i got windows ddk suite 3.0 and installed it..
> the header file, video.h is in
>
> C:\WINDDK\3790\inc\ddk\wxp
>
> and in vc++ 6.0,,
> tools -> options..., directories tab..
> i put above directory in the list of "include files" section..
>
> then i put
>
> // some header files
> #include <video.h>
> // some header files
>
> and tried to compile..
> then i got 102 errors that all of them came from video.h and videoagp.h
> that are newly included headers..
> did i do something wrong to configure building environment?
> is there some special thing to do in order to compile ddk headers?
> thank you very much...
>
> best regards,
> /u
>
> ---------------
> --------------------Configuration: VWCtrl - Win32
> Debug--------------------
> Compiling...
> VWCtrlDlg.cpp
> c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\videoagp.h(35) : error C2065:
> 'PAGP_RESERVE_PHYSICAL' : undeclared identifier
> c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\videoagp.h(35) : error C2100: illegal
> indirection
> c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\videoagp.h(35) : error C2501:
> 'PHYSICAL_ADDRESS' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
> c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\videoagp.h(35) : error C2143: syntax error :
> missing ';' before '('
> c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\videoagp.h(36) : error C2226: syntax error :
> unexpected type 'PVOID'
> c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\videoagp.h(40) : error C2059: syntax error :
> ')'
> .
> .
> .
> c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\video.h(1500) : error C2146: syntax error :
> missing ';' before identifier 'InterfaceReference'
> c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\video.h(1500) : error C2501:
> 'PINTERFACE_REFERENCE' : missing storage-class or type specifiers
> c:\winddk\3790\inc\ddk\wxp\video.h(1500) : fatal error C1003: error
> count exceeds 100; stopping compilation
> Error executing cl.exe.
>
> VWCtrl.exe - 102 error(s), 0 warning(s)
>
> ---------------
>

undergnd
Thu Nov 17 13:20:32 CST 2005

hi,,
thank you for the answer..
maybe,, your suggestion doesn't work since i'm using vc++ 6.0??
anyway,,
is there anyway that i can use ddc/ci without using video.h?
thank you very much...

regards,
/u

Don
Thu Nov 17 14:27:02 CST 2005

NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO,
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The current DDK includes a compiler and all the tools, using anything other
than that compiler is a recipe for disaster. You cannot use VC++ 6.0 since
there are constructs in the includes that will fail with the 6.0 compiler!!!

You can use VC as an editor using the DDKBUILD, but do not even think of
using it as a compiler for a driver (except maybe NT 4.0)



--
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"undergnd" <jhk@dti3d.com> wrote in message
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> hi,,
> thank you for the answer..
> maybe,, your suggestion doesn't work since i'm using vc++ 6.0??
> anyway,,
> is there anyway that i can use ddc/ci without using video.h?
> thank you very much...
>
> regards,
> /u
>

undergnd
Thu Nov 17 15:00:36 CST 2005

dear mr. don burn..

thank you very much for your answer..
i'll try to figure out..
since i don't have much experience with windows stuff..
i really confused...

i just found that your article from msdn page..
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/driver/foundation/DrvDev_Intro.mspx
you are a famous person..
it is a great honor to me to meet you here..
thank you again...

best regards,
/u

Ali
Fri Nov 18 12:50:55 CST 2005

Hi,
Here is the quick link to driver build tutorial for windows , hope
it would help;-)

http://www.geocities.com/abdulrazaqali/tutorial.htm

Regards,
ali

undergnd
Mon Nov 21 10:06:05 CST 2005

hi,,
thank you for the tutorial...
i'm still getting confused...

i have an application that reside in the system tray and monitors
hotkey input..
if it receives a certain hot key input..
then it need to send a certain command to the display over i2c in vga
cable..
so the application is an executable file...
but it seems that the ddk generates .sys file...
can i just add i2c communication feature to the existing application
(which was created by mfc application wizard in vc++ 6.0) using ddk?
thank you very much...

best regards,
/u

undergnd
Mon Nov 21 10:46:11 CST 2005

hi,,

a question about the space in the path..
i tried to compile my application using ddk build command,,
i got bunch of errors that some header files are missing..
error message says that it is looking for some .h files that are in
vc++ 6.0's include folder..
i have installed vc++ prior to installation of ddk..
so vc++ has the path of c:\program files\microsoft visual
studio\vc98\include
i've noticed that i should not use space in the path..
then,, i can i put the path of c:\program files\microsoft visual
studio\vc98\include
in SOURCES file?
thank you very much...

regards,
/u

Ali
Mon Nov 21 11:43:13 CST 2005

>i have installed vc++ prior to installation of ddk.. so vc++ has the path of c:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include i've noticed that i should not use space in the path.. then,, i can i put the path of c:\program files\microsoft visual studio\vc98\include

Doh! space in Ms studio does not matter , you should not having spaces
in your dricer source ( yourDriver.c , yourDriver.h). Guess you havn't
read complete tutorial? you can download project's shareware document
from same link for more understanding on this topic.

>can i just add i2c communication feature to the existing application (which was created by mfc application wizard in vc++ 6.0) using ddk?

I don't think you will be so lucky. You can't even use c runtime
environment(CRT) in your driver code because its not available in
kernel. Obviously no place for MFC;-)


>i have an application that reside in the system tray and monitors hotkey input..
if it receives a certain hot key input.. then it need to send a
certain command to the display over i2c in vga cable..

To me windows standard service should do this for you , you can look at
the following link for developing services.
http://www.devx.com/cplus/Article/9857/0/page/1

Or a upper level(If you don't want any preprocessing) filter driver can
be generic soltuion for you, i can't point the exact resource in DDK
for this. I hope some one here will provide you this pointer as there
ARE filter driver samples in DDK.

Regards.

undergnd
Tue Nov 22 07:52:02 CST 2005

hi,,

thank you for the answer...
so.. what you mean is..
i just leave the system tray application (the one that has been build
already) as is,,
i mean just add some more function to communicate with the driver in
somehow..
and develop a driver for the device in c??
that can interact with the application?

regards,
/u

Ali
Tue Nov 22 11:59:18 CST 2005


>i just leave the system tray application (the one that has been build already) as is,,
i mean just add some more function to communicate with the driver in
somehow..
and develop a driver for the device in c?? that can interact with the
application?

I forwarded you tow different techniques , one for implemnting this job
via *Service* and second one for implementing with driver. BTW if your
application has to stay in system tray all the time then why not doing
this with service? or just getting the keyboard scan code.

undergnd
Tue Nov 22 12:57:27 CST 2005

i don't have much experience in ms windows programming..
i usually use matlab to develop algorithms..
it is my first time to write a windows end-user application...

the application i intend to create is..

1) send appropriate signal over i2c in vga cable to the display...
2) system tray icon gives a few options, change hot key settings.. mode
change.. exit..
3) should receive hot key input from keyboard or mouse input from
system tray (mode change) and send appropriate signal to the display...


thank you very much for your help...

best regards,
/u

Maxim
Tue Nov 22 13:02:41 CST 2005

I don't think that there is a way of doing this in Windows except for
videocard driver writers.

--
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StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

"undergnd" <jhk@dti3d.com> wrote in message
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> i don't have much experience in ms windows programming..
> i usually use matlab to develop algorithms..
> it is my first time to write a windows end-user application...
>
> the application i intend to create is..
>
> 1) send appropriate signal over i2c in vga cable to the display...
> 2) system tray icon gives a few options, change hot key settings.. mode
> change.. exit..
> 3) should receive hot key input from keyboard or mouse input from
> system tray (mode change) and send appropriate signal to the display...
>
>
> thank you very much for your help...
>
> best regards,
> /u
>

Ali
Tue Nov 22 15:28:29 CST 2005

Maxim isn't this related to DirectX? i think he should post to directX
group too;-)

>1) send appropriate signal over i2c in vga cable to the display...

undergnd! are you able to do step one? i mean without carying system
tray stuff or keyboard etc. . As you were saying that you have
developed some code so far. If you have really achieved this step then
i don't understand what is the problem in following steps and if its
not done then sorry i cann't help you in this specific problem.

>2) system tray icon gives a few options, change hot key settings.. mode change.. exit..

This wont be so hard if Step one is achieved. You will be communicating
with your MFC app (Win32 app) to do Step one stuff.

>3) should receive hot key input from keyboard or mouse input from system tray (mode change) and send appropriate signal to the display...

Listening mouse events with MFC or win32 application is really easy job
in windows and for keboard you can use scan code. But eventually you
will repeat Step one;-)

Regards,

undergnd
Wed Nov 23 12:21:45 CST 2005

Dear Mr. Ali,,

Where did you forwarded those two different technics?
I couldn't find them...
My email is jhk@dti3d.com
Thank you very much...

Best Regards,
/u

undergnd
Wed Nov 23 12:59:37 CST 2005

2 & 3 are ok..
but i have problem with #1...

how i can send some bytes over i2c in vga cable to the display?

so far,,
i know that
1. i cannot do it in vc++ 6.0
2. i have to use ddk 3.0

the problem is that i never programmed device driver...
and not very familiar with vc++...
(i usually use matlab for all programming issues)
of course,, i'm studying about device driver
i posted this articles if i could get some help from
anyone who has done that previously...
thank you very much for your help...

best regards,
kim

Ali
Fri Nov 25 06:03:06 CST 2005

>To me windows standard service should do this for you , you can look at
the following link for developing services.

http://www.devx.com/cplus/Article/9857/0/page/1


>Or a upper level(If you don't want any preprocessing) filter driver can
be generic soltuion for you, i can't point the exact resource in DDK
for this. I hope some one here will provide you this pointer as there
ARE filter driver samples in DDK.

That is what i was talking about. Frankly i don't know what you mean by

"how i can send some bytes over i2c in vga cable to the display? "


Regards,

Maxim
Fri Nov 25 07:49:26 CST 2005

> "how i can send some bytes over i2c in vga cable to the display? "

I don't think that this is possible in Windows at all. Only the vendor-specific
stuff from the videocard driver vendors like ATI can help.

Windows is agnostic about i2c.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

undergnd
Fri Nov 25 08:58:07 CST 2005

thank you very much for your answer...

best regards,
/u

undergnd
Fri Nov 25 09:13:17 CST 2005

hi,,

there is a software like displaytune or magictune from portrait
displays inc (www.portrait.com)
some lcd displays that has only one button for power on the bezel..
and all other features are controlled by the software, displaytune...
this software uses i2c to send certain bytes to the display to control
or changes the values of brightness, contrast, saturation and etc...
lcd displays typically has 37h as their i2c address...
as i stated above articles, i planted a micro controller that has i2c
capability... whose i2c address is not 37h... let's say 44h...
so,, if i send a few bytes to the i2c slave device whose address is
44h..
then i can control the micro controller...
that's what i intend to do...
thank you very much for your answer...

best regards,
/u

Alexander
Sun Nov 27 00:05:56 CST 2005

I think VIDEO_PORT_I2C_INTERFACE can be a good starting point for the OP
question.

"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
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>> "how i can send some bytes over i2c in vga cable to the display? "
>
> I don't think that this is possible in Windows at all. Only the
> vendor-specific
> stuff from the videocard driver vendors like ATI can help.
>
> Windows is agnostic about i2c.
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
>

Maxim
Sun Nov 27 00:21:04 CST 2005

It is exposed for videocard driver authors only.

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StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

"Alexander Grigoriev" <alegr@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:uWvvlix8FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> I think VIDEO_PORT_I2C_INTERFACE can be a good starting point for the OP
> question.
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:utWW7bc8FHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> "how i can send some bytes over i2c in vga cable to the display? "
> >
> > I don't think that this is possible in Windows at all. Only the
> > vendor-specific
> > stuff from the videocard driver vendors like ATI can help.
> >
> > Windows is agnostic about i2c.
> >
> > --
> > Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> > StorageCraft Corporation
> > maxim@storagecraft.com
> > http://www.storagecraft.com
> >
>
>

Ali
Sun Nov 27 13:38:37 CST 2005

>this software uses i2c to send certain bytes to the display to control
or changes the values of brightness, contrast, saturation and etc...
lcd displays typically has 37h as their i2c address... as i stated
above articles,


You connecting some device to the CPU port where normallly monitor is
plugged , right?

> i planted a micro controller that has i2c
capability... whose i2c address is not 37h... let's say 44h... so,,

I think thats not big deal , how about translating or mapping 37h to
44h;-)


>if i send a few bytes to the i2c slave device whose address is
44h.. then i can control the micro controller... that's what i intend
to do...
thank you very much for your answer...

Ok suppose we have a microcontroller based board connected via monitor
port . And we want to send sopme data to our device then.

Abstraction:
1) You can see the assigned Resources for VGA adapter from device
manager while clicking the Display Adapters->Properties windows. Here
you will see the I/O ranges , Memory ranges and IRQs details under the
"Resource" tab.

2) Write a kernel mode monolithic type driver which will expose
interfaces to win32 system , like WriteData( IORange , YourValue); ,
v = ReadData( IORange); etc..

I believe that above technique will be sending and recieveing data from
monitor port. But please note that this will be *raw* transfer without
any formating so you have to take care of VGA stuff which involves
directX , graphic etc.
Have you tried DirectX useNet ? Frankly i don't know anything about i2c
so just few thoughts of mine;-)



Regards,
ali

Ali
Sun Nov 27 13:40:09 CST 2005

How about "Alexander Grigoriev's" solution? have you tried that?

Alexander
Sun Nov 27 23:33:06 CST 2005

I believe it's exposed _by_ videocard drivers for a monitor enum driver.

"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
news:uS12qqx8FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> It is exposed for videocard driver authors only.
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
>
> "Alexander Grigoriev" <alegr@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:uWvvlix8FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> I think VIDEO_PORT_I2C_INTERFACE can be a good starting point for the OP
>> question.
>>
>> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
>> news:utWW7bc8FHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> "how i can send some bytes over i2c in vga cable to the display? "
>> >
>> > I don't think that this is possible in Windows at all. Only the
>> > vendor-specific
>> > stuff from the videocard driver vendors like ATI can help.
>> >
>> > Windows is agnostic about i2c.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
>> > StorageCraft Corporation
>> > maxim@storagecraft.com
>> > http://www.storagecraft.com
>> >
>>
>>
>

Maxim
Mon Nov 28 14:46:01 CST 2005

It is exposed by the videocard miniport for use in the VIDEOPRT itself,
with VIDEOPRT being the PnP PDO owner for a monitor.

If you know _any_ user mode API which will allow accessing I2C - then good,
I know none.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

"Alexander Grigoriev" <alegr@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:etsn5098FHA.3544@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I believe it's exposed _by_ videocard drivers for a monitor enum driver.
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:uS12qqx8FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > It is exposed for videocard driver authors only.
> >
> > --
> > Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> > StorageCraft Corporation
> > maxim@storagecraft.com
> > http://www.storagecraft.com
> >
> > "Alexander Grigoriev" <alegr@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> > news:uWvvlix8FHA.2176@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> I think VIDEO_PORT_I2C_INTERFACE can be a good starting point for the OP
> >> question.
> >>
> >> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:utWW7bc8FHA.2364@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> >> "how i can send some bytes over i2c in vga cable to the display? "
> >> >
> >> > I don't think that this is possible in Windows at all. Only the
> >> > vendor-specific
> >> > stuff from the videocard driver vendors like ATI can help.
> >> >
> >> > Windows is agnostic about i2c.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> >> > StorageCraft Corporation
> >> > maxim@storagecraft.com
> >> > http://www.storagecraft.com
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

AlexN
Thu Feb 09 05:08:27 CST 2006

Hi Kim,
this is Alessandro. I'm newbie too... and
I'm trying to get a generic way to access
the video's IIC bus as well!!!
I've read that not all of graphic adapters
miniport drivers expose functions to do that...
so I was trying to figure out if it's possible
to get an access via VBE-SCI standard calling
BIOS function 15H!
If you don't need to write graphic board
independent code... then you'll find this
quite interesting ->http://www.vesa.org/public/DDCCI/ddcci.zip
I've got some ms vc++4.0 code parts for PND.EXE implementation!
My main issue is that it works with S3D Virge, Revolution 3D and
riva128 chipsets ONLY!!!
Did you achieve your goal??? I need help too!

Ciao, Alessandro

"undergnd" wrote:

> 2 & 3 are ok..
> but i have problem with #1...
>
> how i can send some bytes over i2c in vga cable to the display?
>
> so far,,
> i know that
> 1. i cannot do it in vc++ 6.0
> 2. i have to use ddk 3.0
>
> the problem is that i never programmed device driver...
> and not very familiar with vc++...
> (i usually use matlab for all programming issues)
> of course,, i'm studying about device driver
> i posted this articles if i could get some help from
> anyone who has done that previously...
> thank you very much for your help...
>
> best regards,
> kim
>
>

purduephotog
Mon Apr 24 07:40:02 CDT 2006

Were you ever able to produce a test app that would allow you to query/send
data to the monitor over the VGA cable?

Jason

"undergnd" wrote:

> 2 & 3 are ok..
> but i have problem with #1...
>
> how i can send some bytes over i2c in vga cable to the display?
>
> so far,,
> i know that
> 1. i cannot do it in vc++ 6.0
> 2. i have to use ddk 3.0
>
> the problem is that i never programmed device driver...
> and not very familiar with vc++...
> (i usually use matlab for all programming issues)
> of course,, i'm studying about device driver
> i posted this articles if i could get some help from
> anyone who has done that previously...
> thank you very much for your help...
>
> best regards,
> kim
>
>