what type of NDIS is used for wireless networks such as Wi-Fi, GPRS, 1xRTT,
CDPD, CDMA...
is it NDIS WAN or LAN or ??? are these networks considered as
connection-less or connection oriented???

Thank you...

Re: NDIS for wireless networks by Thomas

Thomas
Tue Nov 09 14:09:27 CST 2004


"Harry Potter" <hpotter@azkabar.com> wrote in message
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> what type of NDIS is used for wireless networks such as Wi-Fi, GPRS,
> 1xRTT,
> CDPD, CDMA...
> is it NDIS WAN or LAN or ??? are these networks considered as
> connection-less or connection oriented???
>

On current Windows versions 802.11 adapters are treated as connectionless
802.3 adapters - except that they provide additional support for the
OID_802_11_XYZ family of OIDS.

I believe that the others are connection-oriented. Hopefully someone else
can provide advice on them.

Good luck,

Thomas F. Divine, Windows DDK MVP
http://www.rawether.net


> Thank you...
>
>



Re: NDIS for wireless networks by Maxim

Maxim
Tue Nov 09 16:53:44 CST 2004

> what type of NDIS is used for wireless networks such as Wi-Fi, GPRS, 1xRTT,
> CDPD, CDMA...
> is it NDIS WAN or LAN or ??? are these networks considered as
> connection-less or connection oriented???

Wi-Fi is Ethernet in terms of NDIS. Just a few new standard OIDs to manage WEP
keys, BSSIDs and signal strength.

GPRS (and I expect CDMA too) are serial modems, same as usual dialup modem.
From NDIS point of view, they are PPP.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com



Re: NDIS for wireless networks by Harry

Harry
Tue Nov 09 17:31:00 CST 2004

Thank you...
so just to make sure I'm clear,
we have NDIS connection-oriented/dial-up modems which are
1.PPP
2. RAS
3. NWC
then we have NDIS WAN and LAN and both are connection-less, right?
is there a subclass under each?
LAN is the LAN connection, but what exactly is the WAN here
(characteristic)?
is it basically based on whether there is a need to first make the
connection or not? right?


"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
news:O22An7qxEHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > what type of NDIS is used for wireless networks such as Wi-Fi, GPRS,
1xRTT,
> > CDPD, CDMA...
> > is it NDIS WAN or LAN or ??? are these networks considered as
> > connection-less or connection oriented???
>
> Wi-Fi is Ethernet in terms of NDIS. Just a few new standard OIDs to manage
WEP
> keys, BSSIDs and signal strength.
>
> GPRS (and I expect CDMA too) are serial modems, same as usual dialup
modem.
> From NDIS point of view, they are PPP.
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
>
>



Re: NDIS for wireless networks by Maxim

Maxim
Tue Nov 09 22:27:14 CST 2004

In Windows, WAN means PPP.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

"Harry Potter" <hpotter@azkabar.com> wrote in message
news:%23p94lPrxEHA.3108@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> Thank you...
> so just to make sure I'm clear,
> we have NDIS connection-oriented/dial-up modems which are
> 1.PPP
> 2. RAS
> 3. NWC
> then we have NDIS WAN and LAN and both are connection-less, right?
> is there a subclass under each?
> LAN is the LAN connection, but what exactly is the WAN here
> (characteristic)?
> is it basically based on whether there is a need to first make the
> connection or not? right?
>
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:O22An7qxEHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > what type of NDIS is used for wireless networks such as Wi-Fi, GPRS,
> 1xRTT,
> > > CDPD, CDMA...
> > > is it NDIS WAN or LAN or ??? are these networks considered as
> > > connection-less or connection oriented???
> >
> > Wi-Fi is Ethernet in terms of NDIS. Just a few new standard OIDs to manage
> WEP
> > keys, BSSIDs and signal strength.
> >
> > GPRS (and I expect CDMA too) are serial modems, same as usual dialup
> modem.
> > From NDIS point of view, they are PPP.
> >
> > --
> > Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> > StorageCraft Corporation
> > maxim@storagecraft.com
> > http://www.storagecraft.com
> >
> >
>
>



Re: NDIS for wireless networks by Harry

Harry
Tue Nov 09 22:57:04 CST 2004

huumm... thank you...
so both WAN and LAN can be either connection-oriented or less??? of either
of the PPP, RAS, NWC???
could you please explain abit... I read the ddk but yet a bit confused
between terms used in market and windows......
thank you.

"Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
news:%23yCh$1txEHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> In Windows, WAN means PPP.
>
> --
> Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> StorageCraft Corporation
> maxim@storagecraft.com
> http://www.storagecraft.com
>
> "Harry Potter" <hpotter@azkabar.com> wrote in message
> news:%23p94lPrxEHA.3108@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > Thank you...
> > so just to make sure I'm clear,
> > we have NDIS connection-oriented/dial-up modems which are
> > 1.PPP
> > 2. RAS
> > 3. NWC
> > then we have NDIS WAN and LAN and both are connection-less, right?
> > is there a subclass under each?
> > LAN is the LAN connection, but what exactly is the WAN here
> > (characteristic)?
> > is it basically based on whether there is a need to first make the
> > connection or not? right?
> >
> >
> > "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> > news:O22An7qxEHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > what type of NDIS is used for wireless networks such as Wi-Fi, GPRS,
> > 1xRTT,
> > > > CDPD, CDMA...
> > > > is it NDIS WAN or LAN or ??? are these networks considered as
> > > > connection-less or connection oriented???
> > >
> > > Wi-Fi is Ethernet in terms of NDIS. Just a few new standard OIDs to
manage
> > WEP
> > > keys, BSSIDs and signal strength.
> > >
> > > GPRS (and I expect CDMA too) are serial modems, same as usual dialup
> > modem.
> > > From NDIS point of view, they are PPP.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> > > StorageCraft Corporation
> > > maxim@storagecraft.com
> > > http://www.storagecraft.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: NDIS for wireless networks by Maxim

Maxim
Thu Nov 11 03:51:18 CST 2004

WAN is PPP. PPP media can be supported by CoNDIS miniport
(connection-oriented) or by old-style NDISTAPI miniport. This only influences
the API which will be used by user mode to dial.

As about LAN, there are connection-oriented LANs, which is ATM. Ethernet
and Wi-Fi are not.

--
Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
StorageCraft Corporation
maxim@storagecraft.com
http://www.storagecraft.com

"Harry Potter" <hpotter@azkabar.com> wrote in message
news:uu77eFuxEHA.3224@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> huumm... thank you...
> so both WAN and LAN can be either connection-oriented or less??? of either
> of the PPP, RAS, NWC???
> could you please explain abit... I read the ddk but yet a bit confused
> between terms used in market and windows......
> thank you.
>
> "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> news:%23yCh$1txEHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > In Windows, WAN means PPP.
> >
> > --
> > Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> > StorageCraft Corporation
> > maxim@storagecraft.com
> > http://www.storagecraft.com
> >
> > "Harry Potter" <hpotter@azkabar.com> wrote in message
> > news:%23p94lPrxEHA.3108@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > Thank you...
> > > so just to make sure I'm clear,
> > > we have NDIS connection-oriented/dial-up modems which are
> > > 1.PPP
> > > 2. RAS
> > > 3. NWC
> > > then we have NDIS WAN and LAN and both are connection-less, right?
> > > is there a subclass under each?
> > > LAN is the LAN connection, but what exactly is the WAN here
> > > (characteristic)?
> > > is it basically based on whether there is a need to first make the
> > > connection or not? right?
> > >
> > >
> > > "Maxim S. Shatskih" <maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:O22An7qxEHA.3572@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > > > what type of NDIS is used for wireless networks such as Wi-Fi, GPRS,
> > > 1xRTT,
> > > > > CDPD, CDMA...
> > > > > is it NDIS WAN or LAN or ??? are these networks considered as
> > > > > connection-less or connection oriented???
> > > >
> > > > Wi-Fi is Ethernet in terms of NDIS. Just a few new standard OIDs to
> manage
> > > WEP
> > > > keys, BSSIDs and signal strength.
> > > >
> > > > GPRS (and I expect CDMA too) are serial modems, same as usual dialup
> > > modem.
> > > > From NDIS point of view, they are PPP.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Maxim Shatskih, Windows DDK MVP
> > > > StorageCraft Corporation
> > > > maxim@storagecraft.com
> > > > http://www.storagecraft.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>