Eliyas
Tue May 06 19:49:04 CDT 2008
Response like this usually turns into bashing game but I really liked the
way you turned Gary's (contributing member of this forum for a long time)
criticism to be constructive. Good job!
-Eliyas
"Kerem Gümrükcü" <kareem114@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:eSeybTurIHA.3716@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> Hi Gary,
>
>
>>This is not funny it's actually pathetic. First, to ask the question it
>>obviously means you've done very little driver development ...
>
> Yes you are right, compared to my usermode experience, over
> 15 Years of development i did a little on Kernel Space this is true!
> I never said, that our company is doing professional kernel code
> or software. Its a part of our internals. We dont develop software
> professionally. I am part of a software development team,...thats all,..
>
>
>>else you
>>would know you need to ask your bosses if they are kidding. The situation
>>you describe is intolerable, and speaks more to the nature of company run
> by
>>a bunch of bean counters than a company seriously considering kernel level
>>development. Frankly, it pops a red flag for me that tells me to be sure
>>to
>>avoid products from this company.
>
> It is for a special Device a Fellow developed for controlling some
> special hardware. Now it has to be connected to a windows system.
> SFU is no option for us, or running some virtualization.
>
>
>>You're targeting Vista ... you need the WDK. Period. If you can't put the
>>WDK, and the other tools you need, on the machine you have been given,
> then
>>you need another laptop. Period. A new laptop that can and will do Vista
>>development can be had for $600. The time it will cost you to ATTEMPT to
>>maintain, let alone develope so much as an automatic butt wiper with the
>>peice of crap you currently have will far exceed the cost of a new
>>machine.
>
> I dont know what to say here. Only the Machines i work at this moment
> are still old and run W2K, the rest of the company runs already XP and
> Vista.
> The drivers that have been written for the device are for Linux Kernel and
> not for Windows. The device was running connected to a black box.
>
>>Basically it's called the cost of doing business, and if they can't afford
>>the cost, then perhaps they need to find another business.
>
> Thats easy to say,....find another business,...
>
>>That's pointed at business development. If you are a student then get rid
> of
>>the crap you have on the laptop that is not needed for software
> development.
>
> Once i was (years ago), but now i am not any more. I work mainly as
> a .NET and C++ developer, touching very little Kernel Mode at work.
>
>>Please don't tell me there is no crap on the laptop.
>
> Only a lot of development environments for different
> languages and targets, including MSDN and other docs.
>
>>Of course there is.
>
> There is always,...
>
>>It's over 4 years old. You simply have to set the priorities and say to
>>yourself, "No, I really don't need the 20 gigs of Beer Bong Blowout from
>>last years spring break contest."
> :-D
>
>>Or your entire question is posed as a factious attempt to waste the forums
>>time. In which case I can only posit "Yes Virginia, there really is such a
>>thing as a stupid question".
>
> No, it was a serious Question and i got all answers i needed, including
> you advice, which some people could consider "rude", but in my case
> i appreciate any suggestion always, Even if this could be a waste of
> time, so let me ask you that sarcastic question: Why did you give me
> such a long and detailed answer,... just to tell that i am a stupid guy,
> working for a stupid, poor company wasting others time and know a s***
> abaut development. The answers given here are maybe usefull for someone
> else some time some day, as answers of any kind of information are always.
>
> Thanks for your advice, i am really serious,...
>
> Regards
>
> Kerem
>
>
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