Dual DDK?

Can the XP sp1 DDK reside on the same box as the Win 2000
DDK? I haven't received the XP DDK yet so I wanted to
prep my computer prior to installation.

Thanks.

Nick
Wed Jul 30 14:23:52 CDT 2003

No need to... the latest DDK has build environments for 2k, XP and 2k3.

Sean Whitesell wrote:

> Can the XP sp1 DDK reside on the same box as the Win 2000
> DDK? I haven't received the XP DDK yet so I wanted to
> prep my computer prior to installation.
>
> Thanks.

--
- Nick Ryan (MVP for DDK)

David
Wed Jul 30 19:14:31 CDT 2003

I keep several DDKs on my system. Some of them were copied from an
installed version so I could uninstall it, but still retain the files. I
have 98, NT4, W2K, XP, and .NET all on one drive. I use the XP SP1 IFS Kit
for all W2K and XP drivers. I haven't done any 9x drivers for a while, but
I would probably use VtoolsD and the 98 DDK if needed. I name the
directories as: DDK98, DDK03, DDKXP, DDKNT4, and DDKW2K. I use CodeWright
with batch files that permit me to compile any driver or utility with the
appropriate DDK, SDK and compiler as needed. I use BASEDIRXP to point to
the correct DDK and for all the other versions I have similar names. The
batch files then set BASEDIR to the value in BASEDIRXP, ... as needed and
then the path, include, and lib directories are initialized correctly. Much
easier than doing it the hard way.

"Mark Roddy" <mroddy@tellink.net> wrote in message
news:rhmgivg9aar3gp152vmr4pscd19prcpeok@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 30 Jul 2003 19:23:52 GMT, Nick Ryan <nryan@nryan.com> wrote:
>
> >No need to... the latest DDK has build environments for 2k, XP and 2k3.
> >
>
> OK, but there might be a need, as in the OP's development organization
> has frozen a specific ddk toolset for a specific version of their
> software. The answer is yes, all of the w2k and later ddks cohabitate
> well together. It is possible, although painful, to also have the nt4
> ddk installed and (semi) functional on the same machine.
>
> >Sean Whitesell wrote:
> >
> >> Can the XP sp1 DDK reside on the same box as the Win 2000
> >> DDK? I haven't received the XP DDK yet so I wanted to
> >> prep my computer prior to installation.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> =====================
> Mark Roddy
> Windows XP/2000/NT Consulting, Microsoft DDK MVP
> Hollis Technology Solutions 603-321-1032
> www.hollistech.com
> markr@hollistech.com
> For Windows Device Driver Training: see www.azius.com

Maxim
Wed Jul 30 19:24:21 CDT 2003

> software. The answer is yes, all of the w2k and later ddks cohabitate
> well together. It is possible, although painful, to also have the nt4
> ddk installed and (semi) functional on the same machine.

I have all 3 DDKs installed - NT4, w2k and XP (XP build env). All are working
fine.

Looks like the problem can be in installation order.

Max

Mark
Thu Jul 31 06:26:04 CDT 2003

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 04:24:21 +0400, "Maxim S. Shatskih"
<maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote:

>> software. The answer is yes, all of the w2k and later ddks cohabitate
>> well together. It is possible, although painful, to also have the nt4
>> ddk installed and (semi) functional on the same machine.
>
>I have all 3 DDKs installed - NT4, w2k and XP (XP build env). All are working
>fine.
>
>Looks like the problem can be in installation order.
>
> Max
If I remember correctly, the NT4 DDK has an issue with later
platformsdks that requires either having multiple platformsdks
installed or fixing up the batchfiles that invoke the sdk setenv.




=====================
Mark Roddy
Windows XP/2000/NT Consulting, Microsoft DDK MVP
Hollis Technology Solutions 603-321-1032
www.hollistech.com
markr@hollistech.com
For Windows Device Driver Training: see www.azius.com

Sean
Thu Jul 31 08:22:39 CDT 2003

Thank you all for your replies. Sounds like I have a
good chance of install the new DDK without too much
worry. I'm a bit of novice with device level stuff so any
DDK installation suggestions would be most helpful.

Thanks.


>-----Original Message-----
>Can the XP sp1 DDK reside on the same box as the Win
2000
>DDK? I haven't received the XP DDK yet so I wanted to
>prep my computer prior to installation.
>
>Thanks.
>.
>

Maxim
Thu Jul 31 11:39:32 CDT 2003

> If I remember correctly, the NT4 DDK has an issue with later
> platformsdks that requires either having multiple platformsdks

I have no Platform SDKs installed. NT4 DDK only requires a tiny SETENV.BAT file
from the SDK.
SDK makes sense if you work with very new user-mode technologies. Otherwise,
DDK is for kernel work, and MSVC's headers and libraries are for user mode.

Max

Mark
Thu Jul 31 17:30:22 CDT 2003

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 20:39:32 +0400, "Maxim S. Shatskih"
<maxim@storagecraft.com> wrote:

>> If I remember correctly, the NT4 DDK has an issue with later
>> platformsdks that requires either having multiple platformsdks
>
>I have no Platform SDKs installed. NT4 DDK only requires a tiny SETENV.BAT file
>from the SDK.

Like I said, either you have to modify the NT4 DDK or install a
compatible SDK.

>SDK makes sense if you work with very new user-mode technologies. Otherwise,
>DDK is for kernel work, and MSVC's headers and libraries are for user mode.
>
Many drivers have user mode components. Older DDKs, such as the NT4
DDK, were essentially rev-locked to specific platform sdks and visual
studio releases. This is another reason why the XP and later DDKs,
which contain all the headers required to build user mode as well as
kernel mode components, are vastly superior for development
organizations that require reproducible build environments.




=====================
Mark Roddy
Windows XP/2000/NT Consulting, Microsoft DDK MVP
Hollis Technology Solutions 603-321-1032
www.hollistech.com
markr@hollistech.com
For Windows Device Driver Training: see www.azius.com

wenhua
Fri Aug 01 18:33:02 CDT 2003

When installing multiple DDKs, install them to different
directories, you will get multiple DDK installations in
your system.

>-----Original Message-----
>Can the XP sp1 DDK reside on the same box as the Win 2000
>DDK? I haven't received the XP DDK yet so I wanted to
>prep my computer prior to installation.
>
>Thanks.
>.
>

wenhua
Sat Aug 02 03:04:10 CDT 2003

I have NT DDK installed in NTDDK directory, Windows 2000
DDK installed in W2KDDK directory, 3 Windows.NET DDK
installed in WINDDK\3615, WINDDK\3718, WINDDK\3790.

NT DDK and Windows 2000 DDK need Visual Studio 6 and
Platform SDK(SDK actually is not needed, you can change
setenv.bat to avoid installing SDK).

Windows.NET DDKs have their own compiler, it's self-
dependent.

>-----Original Message-----
>Thank you all for your replies. Sounds like I have a
>good chance of install the new DDK without too much
>worry. I'm a bit of novice with device level stuff so any
>DDK installation suggestions would be most helpful.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Can the XP sp1 DDK reside on the same box as the Win
>2000
>>DDK? I haven't received the XP DDK yet so I wanted to
>>prep my computer prior to installation.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>.
>>
>.
>