Norman
Thu Sep 08 04:59:07 CDT 2005
OK. Then there needs to be an ntkerneldef.h (oops that isn't an MS-DOS
compatible name, but there needs to be something like that). Let ntdef.h
continue to export a subset of the TCHAR stuff for some unknown subset of
user mode applications that use that subset of TCHAR stuff. Let ntddk.h and
wdm.h do a nested include of the new def header instead of ntdef.h.
"Doron Holan [MS]" <doronh@nospam.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OKuNxdEtFHA.1172@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>i didn't misspeak, i was misunderstood. i said that ntdef.h was used for
>both environments. i never said ntddk.h or wdm.h was meant to be used by
>UM.
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> "Mark Roddy" <markr@hollistech.com> wrote in message
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>> Norman Diamond wrote:
>>> "Pavel A." <pavel_a@NOwritemeNO.com> wrote in message
>>> news:umPFBk5sFHA.3080@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>> You might be doing something unusual, because normal usermode programs
>>>> don't include ndis.h or ntddk.h.
>>>
>>>
>>> and "Mark Roddy" <markr@hollistech.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eW7ezt5sFHA.420@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
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>>>> In addition to the other comments: ntddk.h is not appropriate for a
>>>> user
>>>> mode application and I suspect that ndis.h has the same quality.
>>>
>>>
>>> Microsoft doesn't seem to feel that way.
>>>
>>> In newsgroup microsoft.public.win32.programmer.kernel
>>> thread subject "More MSDN lies: RtlStringCchLength"
>>> starting 2005年8月24日 14:25 in the time zone of Microsoft's news
>>> server,
>>> one subthread arose because ntddk.h and wdk.h provide declarations for
>>> TCHAR
>>> and some other stuff, but not as many declarations as user mode programs
>>> usually get from other headers. Microsoft said that ntddk.h and wdk.h
>>> export declarations of TCHAR for use by user mode programs, not for use
>>> by
>>> kernel mode programs.
>>>
>>> (On reading that, I suggested adding separate header files for use by
>>> new
>>> kernel mode programs in the future, which would not export declarations
>>> of
>>> identifiers that should not be used by kernel mode programs. Microsoft
>>> did
>>> not reply.)
>>>
>>> Anyway, if ntddk.h and wdk.h were not appropriate for user mode
>>> applications
>>> then they would not export declarations of TCHAR at all, and Microsoft
>>> would
>>> not have said that these headers are for use by both kernel mode and
>>> user
>>> mode applications.
>>>
>> Microsoft misspoke. TCHAR is defined in ntdef.h by the way.
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