Hi,

We are a consulting company and most of our sales will have a contract
amount say $100,000.00 with a start day of 1/1/2007 and an end date of
3/31/2007. We will invoice monthly for our services so the forecast should
reflect $33,333.33 for January, $33,333.33 for February and $33,333.34 for
March. (I am not worried about where the penny goes.)

How do we set up opportunities and price list to reflect such a business
model? Can this be done with CRM 3?

Thanks!
Simon

RE: Forecast question by MD

MD
Thu Feb 22 22:24:00 CST 2007

I'd recommend Forcasting this in a Report (in SQL/SRS or Excel/Access) where
you'll have an easier time breaking out the CRM data into Monthly forcasted
revenue.

First Step is to set up 2 Date fields in Opportunities called "Start Date"
and "End Date" (actually, 4, Start Date (Proposed), End Date (Proposed),
Start Date (Actual), End Date (Actual). Along with your Contract Amount
(Using the system "Est. Revenue" field, or you own) and a SQL/Excel DATEDIF
functions (that look at your start and end dates and give you the # of
months) you have all the data points you need to calculate Est. Monthly
revenue.

You can use these new fields/calculations to modify the built in SRS
pipeline report, or build your own...

--Michael

"Simon Renshaw" wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We are a consulting company and most of our sales will have a contract
> amount say $100,000.00 with a start day of 1/1/2007 and an end date of
> 3/31/2007. We will invoice monthly for our services so the forecast should
> reflect $33,333.33 for January, $33,333.33 for February and $33,333.34 for
> March. (I am not worried about where the penny goes.)
>
> How do we set up opportunities and price list to reflect such a business
> model? Can this be done with CRM 3?
>
> Thanks!
> Simon
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: Forecast question by Simon

Simon
Fri Feb 23 10:16:09 CST 2007

How hard would it be to add those date fields in Opportunities?

"MD" <MD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:6D865286-3F44-49CB-BAC8-B68B6FFD956C@microsoft.com...
> I'd recommend Forcasting this in a Report (in SQL/SRS or Excel/Access)
> where
> you'll have an easier time breaking out the CRM data into Monthly
> forcasted
> revenue.
>
> First Step is to set up 2 Date fields in Opportunities called "Start Date"
> and "End Date" (actually, 4, Start Date (Proposed), End Date (Proposed),
> Start Date (Actual), End Date (Actual). Along with your Contract Amount
> (Using the system "Est. Revenue" field, or you own) and a SQL/Excel
> DATEDIF
> functions (that look at your start and end dates and give you the # of
> months) you have all the data points you need to calculate Est. Monthly
> revenue.
>
> You can use these new fields/calculations to modify the built in SRS
> pipeline report, or build your own...
>
> --Michael
>
> "Simon Renshaw" wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are a consulting company and most of our sales will have a contract
>> amount say $100,000.00 with a start day of 1/1/2007 and an end date of
>> 3/31/2007. We will invoice monthly for our services so the forecast
>> should
>> reflect $33,333.33 for January, $33,333.33 for February and $33,333.34
>> for
>> March. (I am not worried about where the penny goes.)
>>
>> How do we set up opportunities and price list to reflect such a business
>> model? Can this be done with CRM 3?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Simon
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>



Re: Forecast question by MD

MD
Fri Feb 23 11:01:45 CST 2007

Not hard at all, so long as you have customization permissions. All
Customizations to CRM forms and their attributes is accessed through the CRM
UI.

Check out the CRM Help Menu -- this will give you the path to the
Opportunity Customization form. Adding new attributes is fairly intuitive
once you're there. Just add those 2 (or 4) new DateTime fields and go from
there.

The main thing to remember when setting up your Opportunities (or any record
type for that matter) is leveraging the capturing of data, vs. reporting on
it.

What I mean by that is that sales people will always want to enter as little
data as possible, so your opportunity should capture key variables (start/end
date, est. revenue), and let your reporting system do the math for you (Est.
Revenue/DATEDIF(StartDate,EndDate,"M") (for the $/Month) -- Don't quote me on
the syntax for this function, but that's the idea...

With a little more effort on the SQL/Excel side, you can place the monthly
revenue in the appropriate month, based on working business days. Since, in
December, you'd work less business days than in January, so you projected
revenue for December would be less than Proj rev for Jan.


"Simon Renshaw" wrote:

> How hard would it be to add those date fields in Opportunities?
>
> "MD" <MD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:6D865286-3F44-49CB-BAC8-B68B6FFD956C@microsoft.com...
> > I'd recommend Forcasting this in a Report (in SQL/SRS or Excel/Access)
> > where
> > you'll have an easier time breaking out the CRM data into Monthly
> > forcasted
> > revenue.
> >
> > First Step is to set up 2 Date fields in Opportunities called "Start Date"
> > and "End Date" (actually, 4, Start Date (Proposed), End Date (Proposed),
> > Start Date (Actual), End Date (Actual). Along with your Contract Amount
> > (Using the system "Est. Revenue" field, or you own) and a SQL/Excel
> > DATEDIF
> > functions (that look at your start and end dates and give you the # of
> > months) you have all the data points you need to calculate Est. Monthly
> > revenue.
> >
> > You can use these new fields/calculations to modify the built in SRS
> > pipeline report, or build your own...
> >
> > --Michael
> >
> > "Simon Renshaw" wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> We are a consulting company and most of our sales will have a contract
> >> amount say $100,000.00 with a start day of 1/1/2007 and an end date of
> >> 3/31/2007. We will invoice monthly for our services so the forecast
> >> should
> >> reflect $33,333.33 for January, $33,333.33 for February and $33,333.34
> >> for
> >> March. (I am not worried about where the penny goes.)
> >>
> >> How do we set up opportunities and price list to reflect such a business
> >> model? Can this be done with CRM 3?
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >> Simon
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

Re: Forecast question by Simon

Simon
Mon Feb 26 13:28:37 CST 2007

Thanks a lot for the help, I really appreciate it.

I was able to add the new fields (a lot easier than I expected) and now I
will start to work on th report.

I will use SQL 2005.

Simon

"MD" <MD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9D07AB33-76B3-40FF-B53B-8CFA9C0C0FA6@microsoft.com...
> Not hard at all, so long as you have customization permissions. All
> Customizations to CRM forms and their attributes is accessed through the
> CRM
> UI.
>
> Check out the CRM Help Menu -- this will give you the path to the
> Opportunity Customization form. Adding new attributes is fairly intuitive
> once you're there. Just add those 2 (or 4) new DateTime fields and go from
> there.
>
> The main thing to remember when setting up your Opportunities (or any
> record
> type for that matter) is leveraging the capturing of data, vs. reporting
> on
> it.
>
> What I mean by that is that sales people will always want to enter as
> little
> data as possible, so your opportunity should capture key variables
> (start/end
> date, est. revenue), and let your reporting system do the math for you
> (Est.
> Revenue/DATEDIF(StartDate,EndDate,"M") (for the $/Month) -- Don't quote me
> on
> the syntax for this function, but that's the idea...
>
> With a little more effort on the SQL/Excel side, you can place the monthly
> revenue in the appropriate month, based on working business days. Since,
> in
> December, you'd work less business days than in January, so you projected
> revenue for December would be less than Proj rev for Jan.
>
>
> "Simon Renshaw" wrote:
>
>> How hard would it be to add those date fields in Opportunities?
>>
>> "MD" <MD@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:6D865286-3F44-49CB-BAC8-B68B6FFD956C@microsoft.com...
>> > I'd recommend Forcasting this in a Report (in SQL/SRS or Excel/Access)
>> > where
>> > you'll have an easier time breaking out the CRM data into Monthly
>> > forcasted
>> > revenue.
>> >
>> > First Step is to set up 2 Date fields in Opportunities called "Start
>> > Date"
>> > and "End Date" (actually, 4, Start Date (Proposed), End Date
>> > (Proposed),
>> > Start Date (Actual), End Date (Actual). Along with your Contract Amount
>> > (Using the system "Est. Revenue" field, or you own) and a SQL/Excel
>> > DATEDIF
>> > functions (that look at your start and end dates and give you the # of
>> > months) you have all the data points you need to calculate Est. Monthly
>> > revenue.
>> >
>> > You can use these new fields/calculations to modify the built in SRS
>> > pipeline report, or build your own...
>> >
>> > --Michael
>> >
>> > "Simon Renshaw" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> We are a consulting company and most of our sales will have a contract
>> >> amount say $100,000.00 with a start day of 1/1/2007 and an end date of
>> >> 3/31/2007. We will invoice monthly for our services so the forecast
>> >> should
>> >> reflect $33,333.33 for January, $33,333.33 for February and $33,333.34
>> >> for
>> >> March. (I am not worried about where the penny goes.)
>> >>
>> >> How do we set up opportunities and price list to reflect such a
>> >> business
>> >> model? Can this be done with CRM 3?
>> >>
>> >> Thanks!
>> >> Simon
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>