using MSMQ in CF ??

Hello,
I ve to use Microsoft Message Queueing in a .NET Application on an PDA ?
Are there any standard wrappers for easy using ?
Has anyone experience in using MSMQ in CF ?
thanks
Robert

Ignacio
Mon Aug 23 08:58:45 CDT 2004

Hi,

AFAIK there is no support for MSMQ in the PocketPC platform.

Cheers,

--
Ignacio Machin,
ignacio.machin AT dot.state.fl.us
Florida Department Of Transportation

"Robert Keber" <robert.keber@scch.at> wrote in message
news:4129ef2c$0$10836$3b214f66@aconews.univie.ac.at...
> Hello,
> I ve to use Microsoft Message Queueing in a .NET Application on an PDA ?
> Are there any standard wrappers for easy using ?
> Has anyone experience in using MSMQ in CF ?
> thanks
> Robert
>
>

ilyatum
Mon Aug 23 12:46:10 CDT 2004

Using MSMQ from CF V1 is not trivial. I'm aware of several attempts, none
completed.

To resolve this issue, CF V2 will contain System.Messaging compatible with
desktop (less features not supported by MSMQ CE).
CF V2 Beta is already available; you can evaluate it and see if it's right
for you.

Please see this for more details: http://blogs.msdn.com/ihimmar/

Best regards,

Ilya

This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
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Alex
Mon Aug 23 14:01:34 CDT 2004

Actually there is, just not in the CF

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"Ignacio Machin ( .NET/ C# MVP )" <ignacio.machin AT dot.state.fl.us> wrote
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> Hi,
>
> AFAIK there is no support for MSMQ in the PocketPC platform.
>
> Cheers,
>
> --
> Ignacio Machin,
> ignacio.machin AT dot.state.fl.us
> Florida Department Of Transportation
>
> "Robert Keber" <robert.keber@scch.at> wrote in message
> news:4129ef2c$0$10836$3b214f66@aconews.univie.ac.at...
>> Hello,
>> I ve to use Microsoft Message Queueing in a .NET Application on an PDA ?
>> Are there any standard wrappers for easy using ?
>> Has anyone experience in using MSMQ in CF ?
>> thanks
>> Robert
>>
>>
>
>

Floris
Tue Aug 24 03:21:55 CDT 2004

Hi Robert,.

In my opinion, it's not worth to spend time on the subject, since I needed
it to work in a firewalled environment aka GPRS. Msmq works over TCP/IP and
I truly believe the TCP/IP is the worst you can use in a wireless
environment. I don't feel like explaining it, would cost several a4's.
Anyhow if you REALLY want to do it here we go,

Imo it's a good practice to don't immediately go and do hard p/invoking but
i suggest you create an EVC (embedded visual c) project with simple calls.
So
the initial p/invoking isn't that hard..



look at these posts,... "first name" is me.



http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=msmq+group%3Amicrosoft.public.dotnet.framework.compactframework+%22first+name%22



other msmq related posts,...



http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&q=msmq+group%3Amicrosoft.public.dotnet.framework.compactframework



other related links:



http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/communications/msmq/default.asp



http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnmqqc/html/msmqbest.asp



Summary of MSMQ Functions on Windows CE

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/wcemsmq/html/ceconSummaryofMSMQFunctionsonWindowsCE.asp





and last but not least,.. my abandoned project,.. forgive me for any bad
coding styles,.. he at least it get you started!!



http://www.briolas.nl/Coding/cfnet/msmq.zip



Plz share your msmq code when ready with the opennetcf.org community,.. and
be so kind to remember me and give me a bit of credit as well...



Regards



Floris Briolas

altoptaget
Tue Aug 24 04:53:18 CDT 2004

It is possible, have got it working.

You must wrap the msmq into a cf assembly using dll import.

first we wrapped the msmq functions into an c++ dll, compiled for .net

then we used dll import on this dll from or managed application.

not sure if it is any help, just to say it is possible, but demands
some work to get all needed funtions wrapped correctly.



ilyatum@online.microsoft.com ("Ilya Tumanov [MS]") wrote in message news:<#QQKXkTiEHA.3936@cpmsftngxa10.phx.gbl>...
> Using MSMQ from CF V1 is not trivial. I'm aware of several attempts, none
> completed.
>
> To resolve this issue, CF V2 will contain System.Messaging compatible with
> desktop (less features not supported by MSMQ CE).
> CF V2 Beta is already available; you can evaluate it and see if it's right
> for you.
>
> Please see this for more details: http://blogs.msdn.com/ihimmar/
>
> Best regards,
>
> Ilya
>
> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
> --------------------
> > From: "Robert Keber" <robert.keber@scch.at>
> > Newsgroups: microsoft.public.dotnet.framework.compactframework
> > Subject: using MSMQ in CF ??
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> > Hello,
> > I ve to use Microsoft Message Queueing in a .NET Application on an PDA ?
> > Are there any standard wrappers for easy using ?
> > Has anyone experience in using MSMQ in CF ?
> > thanks
> > Robert
> >
> >
> >

Eugene
Tue Aug 24 05:21:16 CDT 2004

Hello!
You wrote on Tue, 24 Aug 2004 10:21:55 +0200:

FB> In my opinion, it's not worth to spend time on the subject, since I
FB> needed it to work in a firewalled environment aka GPRS. Msmq works over
FB> TCP/IP and I truly believe the TCP/IP is the worst you can use in a
FB> wireless environment. I don't feel like explaining it, would cost
FB> several a4's. Anyhow if you REALLY want to do it here we go,

Or you can check MsgConnect ( http://www.msgconnect.com/) if you need a
cross-platform message-oriented middleware solution.

With best regards,
Eugene Mayevski

Floris
Tue Aug 24 07:47:49 CDT 2004

Hi Eugene,..

Yeah I know,.. there is also a product called broadbeam. www.broadbeam.com

regards
Floris Briolas

Ignacio
Tue Aug 24 08:04:15 CDT 2004

Hi Alex,

Thanks, I already saw the other post :)

Cheers,


--
Ignacio Machin,
ignacio.machin AT dot.state.fl.us
Florida Department Of Transportation



"Alex Feinman [MVP]" <public_news@alexfeinman.com> wrote in message
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> Actually there is, just not in the CF
>
> --
> Alex Feinman
> ---
> Visit http://www.opennetcf.org
> "Ignacio Machin ( .NET/ C# MVP )" <ignacio.machin AT dot.state.fl.us>
wrote
> in message news:O4i4PlRiEHA.1512@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Hi,
> >
> > AFAIK there is no support for MSMQ in the PocketPC platform.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > --
> > Ignacio Machin,
> > ignacio.machin AT dot.state.fl.us
> > Florida Department Of Transportation
> >
> > "Robert Keber" <robert.keber@scch.at> wrote in message
> > news:4129ef2c$0$10836$3b214f66@aconews.univie.ac.at...
> >> Hello,
> >> I ve to use Microsoft Message Queueing in a .NET Application on an PDA
?
> >> Are there any standard wrappers for easy using ?
> >> Has anyone experience in using MSMQ in CF ?
> >> thanks
> >> Robert
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

Jon
Wed Sep 22 12:35:04 CDT 2004

Any chance of you sharing what you've built Finn??

I need to send a message from managed code (Compact Framework) running on a
CE.Net device. I'm getting absolutely nowhere with it....

Thanks,

Jon

"Finn" wrote:

> It is possible, have got it working.
>
> You must wrap the msmq into a cf assembly using dll import.
>
> first we wrapped the msmq functions into an c++ dll, compiled for .net
>
> then we used dll import on this dll from or managed application.
>
> not sure if it is any help, just to say it is possible, but demands
> some work to get all needed funtions wrapped correctly.
>