Victor
Mon Nov 06 17:35:02 CST 2006
Ja Ja. Let be peace!!
I'm a MIS programmer, so C++ is too much "lowlevel" for what I need.
But I give you that C (C, C++, C#, Obj-C) is indeed a beautifull and
powerfull language.
Victor Espina
Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] wrote:
> Yes. MDB comes up periodically as a desirable format and I can certainly
> understand that. The alternative that MS would express, I think, would be
> using remote data access or synchronization via something like SQL Server on
> the desktop and the matching code on the device, rather than moving all of
> the data to the device all the time.
>
> Hey, I could show you what can be done in C++, too! :-) Everyone has their
> own favorites, usually based on their experience with a given environment.
> In any case, I'm a device OEM, so not really a suitable convert!
>
> Paul T.
>
> "Victor Espina" <vespinas@cantv.net> wrote in message
> news:%23dCOIOdAHHA.4864@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> I agree with both of you. The point is that MDB files are NOT obsolete... I
>> have Access 2003 installed in my PC and i'm pretty sure that is not the
>> lastest version...
>>
>> Anyway, I guess that your are right. In my particular case, the problem is
>> that I'm programming a new applicacion en C# and NETcf for a client that
>> used eVB for its PDA applications. They have some key data in a CDB file
>> that I should read from my .NET apps... and I had to tell him that I can't
>> do that from C#... of course, I can spend the extra bucks and buy this
>> ADOce wrappers, but that will cost me money and of course I don't like
>> that particulary.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Victor Espina
>>
>> P.D.: and for VFP... yes, you maybe right.. but you can be 100% sure that
>> if I could have the chance to sit with you and show you what can be done
>> in VFP, you will realize why VFP comunity keeps making presure to force MS
>> to not only continue devoloping VFP but to market it in a more aggresive
>> way.
>>
>> The last time I did this "sitting" thing was with a project leader that
>> was suppossed to train me in a the language they had picked for that
>> particular project... Delhpi or something like that, I don't remember
>> now... one of the project team had seen a presentation I made some months
>> ago about some apps I've been devoloping for another company and he
>> insists to the project leader to ask me to make the same presentation to
>> him... all this toke place at first hour in the morning of the first
>> training day.. by noon, the project leader was calling to its supervisor
>> to CONVINCE HIM why they should use VFP and recode all what was being done
>> so far!!
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] wrote:
>>> I suppose that the word "better" is the reason. The main reason, best I
>>> can tell, that VFP still exists is that there is a large and *very* vocal
>>> community of FoxPro MVPs which constantly are pounding the Microsoft
>>> product team to keep it around one more version (they are rabid, maybe
>>> literally ;-). MS has announced several times that VFP was going away
>>> only to be pounded back into one more version at the MVP Summit, from
>>> what I've heard. I seriously doubt that MS is making any money on VFP,
>>> but sometimes a vocal minority can be more effective than a silent
>>> majority. ADOCE didn't have that.
>>>
>>> You have to obsolete old products or, over time, you're going to die as a
>>> company. You try to pick those technologies, libraries, tools, etc.
>>> which have the least impact on the users or which allow you to make the
>>> biggest jumps in performance, usability, or reliability. It's just a
>>> fact of life.
>>>
>>> Paul T.
>>>
>>> "Victor Espina" <vespinas@cantv.net> wrote in message
>>> news:O9uagncAHHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Paul, I think the point is:
>>>>
>>>> Why you (M$) make so big efforts so sell me your new technologies and
>>>> convince me to invest time and money creating an application based on
>>>> that techology, just to let me down in a couple of year because you just
>>>> has invented a new and better technology?
>>>>
>>>> I've been a VFP programmer for years, even before MS buyed out Fox
>>>> Company... and I STILL can access data created in 1990!!
>>>>
>>>> If at some time M$ sell us out that you can create and use MDB files in
>>>> PDA devices (with eVB for example) they should give us a way to continue
>>>> accesing those files with their new technologies.
>>>>
>>>> IMHO
>>>>
>>>> Victor Espina
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Paul G. Tobey [eMVP] wrote:
>>>>> Yep, that's true. The last version of the software that they had was a
>>>>> while back. They *did* make a significant effort to let everyone know
>>>>> that support for ADOCE was going away long before it was dropped.
>>>>> This, of course, favors their own newer database products, which you
>>>>> might find ominous, but, if it's really valuable to have that
>>>>> capability, it seems to me that the cost of a commercial wrapper should
>>>>> be worth it to have support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul T.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Victor Espina" <vespinas@cantv.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:O3tdvGcAHHA.4496@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Exactly... amazing, uh?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm having the exact same problem than you have, and as far I had read
>>>>>> in Internet, MS doesn't offer ANY way to access a MDB in a PDA device.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The only way I have found to access an MDB file in a PDA device is
>>>>>> buying some commercial ADOCE wrapper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I hope you have more luck than me... if you find any free solution,
>>>>>> please let me know.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Victor Espina
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris wrote:
>>>>>>> Ginny,
>>>>>>> I'm just installed VS.Net 2005, so I need to find and install the SQL
>>>>>>> Server Everywhere ?
>>>>>>> And import Access MDB to SQL SE and export to PDA use (what extension
>>>>>>> name that I don't know) ?
>>>>>>> And therefor I can use your method to access my database file ?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Ginny Caughey [MVP]" <ginny.caughey.online@wasteworks.com>
>>>>>>> ¼¶¼g©ó¶l¥ó·s»D:eN7toK5$GHA.4328@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>> Chris,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You might want to try the Access Database Synchronizer for SQL
>>>>>>>> Everywhere:
http://blogs.msdn.com/sqlservereverywhere/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Ginny Caughey
>>>>>>>> Device Application Development MVP
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Chris" <edu.chris.nospam@spamaway.gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:e0TKes3$GHA.2128@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I know we can convert mdb to cdb, but how can I access the .cdb
>>>>>>>>> files in
>>>>>>>>> vs.net 2005 CF ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> someone can provide sample code or else ?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> by the way, The files ADOCE.Net in InTheHand Software
>>>>>>>>> (www.inthehand.com)
>>>>>>>>> is removed. (That in the following link)
>>>>>>>>>
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-US/library/ms837914.aspx
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> thanks all !
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>>>
>