ASP book recommendation???

I am just starting to learn ASP and would like to pick up a good book.
I have been through ASP Programming for the Absolute Beginner and got
some ideas, but it only discussed local servers running PWS or IIS -
nothing about working with an internet ASP hosting service. It also
lacks good descriptions of syntax.

I have also looked at the O'Reilly ASP in a Nutshell, but it seems
like a reference for more advanced users, not a learning tool.

I have some Javascript background, but right now I'm trying to pick up
ASP and VBScript at the same time so a book that has an ASP/VBScript
focus would be ideal.

thanks, BDT

Steven
Tue Jun 22 13:16:41 CDT 2004

Forget books and use something much much better....

www.aspfaq.com

Reccomend it over a book etc, any day of the week..... and then some ;o)

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"bt" <bt@.com> wrote in message
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> I am just starting to learn ASP and would like to pick up a good book.
> I have been through ASP Programming for the Absolute Beginner and got
> some ideas, but it only discussed local servers running PWS or IIS -
> nothing about working with an internet ASP hosting service. It also
> lacks good descriptions of syntax.
>
> I have also looked at the O'Reilly ASP in a Nutshell, but it seems
> like a reference for more advanced users, not a learning tool.
>
> I have some Javascript background, but right now I'm trying to pick up
> ASP and VBScript at the same time so a book that has an ASP/VBScript
> focus would be ideal.
>
> thanks, BDT

PW
Tue Jun 22 17:32:01 CDT 2004


"Steven Burn" <pvt@noyb.com> wrote in message
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> Forget books and use something much much better....
> www.aspfaq.com


I agree, don't waste your money, use the net.

Michael
Tue Jun 22 17:58:34 CDT 2004

bt wrote:

> I am just starting to learn ASP and would like to pick up a good book.
> I have been through ASP Programming for the Absolute Beginner and got
> some ideas, but it only discussed local servers running PWS or IIS -
> nothing about working with an internet ASP hosting service. It also
> lacks good descriptions of syntax.
>
> I have also looked at the O'Reilly ASP in a Nutshell, but it seems
> like a reference for more advanced users, not a learning tool.
>
> I have some Javascript background, but right now I'm trying to pick up
> ASP and VBScript at the same time so a book that has an ASP/VBScript
> focus would be ideal.
>
> thanks, BDT
If you want a *single* book that
a. explains what is necessary,
b. in the correct order,
c. doesn't have anything missing so you need to buy another 9 books,
d. has a complete index that is actually useful,
d. will not give you a hernia carrying it around (it's less than an inch
thick!)
then buy
"ASP: Active Server Pages"
subtitled "The Power Guide to Developing Server-Based Web Applications"
by Andrew M. Fedorchek and David K. Rensin (IDG Books, 1997). IMO it's
still the best intro to ASP for programmers.

The book is out of print. It's somewhat out-of-date about serverside
info, but you'll appreciate the insights that the dated information
provides.

You can find the book at Amazon used for as little as $5 today:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0764580426/ref=cm_cr_dp_2_1/104-5847325-6583145?v=glance&s=books&vi=customer-reviews&me=ATVPDKIKX0DER

Frederic
Tue Jun 22 21:04:00 CDT 2004

or http://www.learnasp.com/learnasp/

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"Steven Burn" <pvt@noyb.com> wrote in message
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> Forget books and use something much much better....
>
> www.aspfaq.com
>
> Reccomend it over a book etc, any day of the week..... and then some ;o)
>
> --
>
> Regards
>
> Steven Burn
> Ur I.T. Mate Group
> www.it-mate.co.uk
>
> Keeping it FREE!
>
>
> "bt" <bt@.com> wrote in message
> news:rvsgd092s9netk7alrc7in6k7f2ebntjs9@4ax.com...
> > I am just starting to learn ASP and would like to pick up a good book.
> > I have been through ASP Programming for the Absolute Beginner and got
> > some ideas, but it only discussed local servers running PWS or IIS -
> > nothing about working with an internet ASP hosting service. It also
> > lacks good descriptions of syntax.
> >
> > I have also looked at the O'Reilly ASP in a Nutshell, but it seems
> > like a reference for more advanced users, not a learning tool.
> >
> > I have some Javascript background, but right now I'm trying to pick up
> > ASP and VBScript at the same time so a book that has an ASP/VBScript
> > focus would be ideal.
> >
> > thanks, BDT
>
>

Bullschmidt
Wed Jun 23 00:27:10 CDT 2004

Not a book but here are a few good ASP sites:
o ASP101 Samples - http://www.asp101.com/samples
o W3Schools ASP Tutorial - http://www.w3schools.com/asp
o Microsoft VBScript Language Reference -
http://msdn.microsoft.com/scripting/default.htm?/scripting/VBScript/doc/
vbscripttoc.htm

Or for a "quick and dirty" generic ASP open source solution to putting
databases on the Web that just requires setting up a configuration page
for each table or query and uploading the database to the Web as long as
there is an autonumber field in each table (and you'll probably also
separately want to create login capabilities), perhaps try something
like this:
GenericDB by Eli Robillard
http://www.genericdb.com and then click on the Tips link to see an
example

Best regards,
J. Paul Schmidt, Freelance ASP Web Designer
http://www.Bullschmidt.com
ASP Designer Tips, ASP Web Database Demo, Free ASP Bar Chart Tool...


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Zenobia
Wed Jun 23 05:47:04 CDT 2004

On Tue, 22 Jun 2004 18:07:54 GMT, bt <bt@.com> wrote:

>I am just starting to learn ASP and would like to pick up a good book.
>I have been through ASP Programming for the Absolute Beginner and got
>some ideas, but it only discussed local servers running PWS or IIS -
>nothing about working with an internet ASP hosting service. It also
>lacks good descriptions of syntax.
>
>I have also looked at the O'Reilly ASP in a Nutshell, but it seems
>like a reference for more advanced users, not a learning tool.

That book's not much use.

I used the Wrox press books. You may consider them quite
advanced, which is what I liked about them.

"Beginning Active Server Pages"
and
"Professional Active Server Pages", ISBN: 1861002610, only as a
reference.

These are available in at least 2 versions each. Version 3 was
the latest one and the one you should get but if you buy visit
amazon.com and see if you can pick them up 2nd hand. They have
Pro ASP 3 available from $29 2nd hand and Beg ASP 3 available
from $24. The source code for the books is available online, not
on a CD.

>I have some Javascript background, but right now I'm trying to pick up
>ASP and VBScript at the same time so a book that has an ASP/VBScript
>focus would be ideal.

Use the internet as a reference for VBScript. You certainly
don't need a book for that.

The vast majority of the stuff in Pro ASP 3 is stuff you'll
never need.

PS: Shouldn't you be learning ASP.NET rather than ASP?

bt
Wed Jun 23 14:06:24 CDT 2004

Thanks for all of the good input. Some of the recommended websites
look like great resources and I might check out some of the books as
well. I don't mind the belt AND suspenders approach.

thanks again, BDT