Hi,

I'm getting tasked with writing an ASP application deployed throughout the
company's intranet where all the workstations will be running Internet
Explorer 6.0.

It's a retail business, and some of the workstations are Point-Of-Sale and
will need to have cash drawers and bar-code scanners.

The project managers want this as a web-application because of the ease of
deployment and updates to the other stores. The problem is, I don't know how
to activate the cash drawers from within IE. Is there any kind of ActiveX
control which can be plugged into IE to allow control over the cash drawer
from within IE? We don't have the cash drawers purchased yet, and are
waiting to find out if anyone makes an ActiveX plug-in control and cash
drawer which will work from IE.

Suggestions and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Scott

Re: POS Cash Drawer with Internet Explorer? by Chris

Chris
Mon Jul 21 12:38:55 CDT 2003

Reliability would be horrible.

Who the heck thought that one up? Let me know what brand the stores are - I
reckon I could have a big shopping spree coming up!

You would probably need a custom written browser add-in to be able to do
anything (unless you run it as a .htc and you could then instantiate local
side DLL's to do the work). But .... how to get the DLL's to the client
machines and get them installed - oh the fun we could have messing with
that!

Chris.



"Scott A. Keen" <scott@scottkeen.com> wrote in message
news:OpweZv6TDHA.1912@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Hi,
>
> I'm getting tasked with writing an ASP application deployed throughout the
> company's intranet where all the workstations will be running Internet
> Explorer 6.0.
>
> It's a retail business, and some of the workstations are Point-Of-Sale and
> will need to have cash drawers and bar-code scanners.
>
> The project managers want this as a web-application because of the ease of
> deployment and updates to the other stores. The problem is, I don't know
how
> to activate the cash drawers from within IE. Is there any kind of ActiveX
> control which can be plugged into IE to allow control over the cash drawer
> from within IE? We don't have the cash drawers purchased yet, and are
> waiting to find out if anyone makes an ActiveX plug-in control and cash
> drawer which will work from IE.
>
> Suggestions and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Scott
>
>



Re: POS Cash Drawer with Internet Explorer? by Chris

Chris
Mon Jul 21 14:03:44 CDT 2003

... PDAs ... good point.

Cheers,

Chris.

"Tom B" <shuckle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:u3Ithi7TDHA.2260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Not much point in using PDA's as Cash Drawers were specifically mentioned.
>
> Everything else I agree with. I'm sure you could write a bunch of ActiveX
> controls to be downloaded and installed on the IE client. But you're
> probably better off writing an actual application anyway.
>
>
>
>
>
> "Chris Barber" <chris@blue-canoe.co.uk.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> news:%23sGQ8K7TDHA.3796@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Still - fraught with issues - not least of all security and the
potential
> > for fraud by IE savvy employees.
> > Believe me - I've fired a few when I used to run bars a few years ago.
> >
> > Still - if they can use WinNT for service station internet kiosks and
> > display screens then I suppose anything is possible. Have you considered
> > wireless PDA's with bar code scanners on them - my business partner has
> had
> > a fair bit oif experience with that stuff. As long as no cash changing
> hands
> > then it should be OK.
> >
> > Have fun.
> >
> > Chris.
> >
> > "Scott A. Keen" <scott@scottkeen.com> wrote in message
> > news:OaPgrG7TDHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > LOL! It's in the concept planning stage. It's for a couople of local
> > health
> > > clubs which have a low-volume point-of-sale counter for the occasional
> > > member who wants to buy a bottle of water or a protein bar. Not high
> > volume
> > > retail.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Chris Barber" <chris@blue-canoe.co.uk.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> > > news:OBsl176TDHA.2316@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Reliability would be horrible.
> > > >
> > > > Who the heck thought that one up? Let me know what brand the stores
> > are -
> > > I
> > > > reckon I could have a big shopping spree coming up!
> > > >
> > > > You would probably need a custom written browser add-in to be able
to
> do
> > > > anything (unless you run it as a .htc and you could then instantiate
> > local
> > > > side DLL's to do the work). But .... how to get the DLL's to the
> client
> > > > machines and get them installed - oh the fun we could have messing
> with
> > > > that!
> > > >
> > > > Chris.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Scott A. Keen" <scott@scottkeen.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:OpweZv6TDHA.1912@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm getting tasked with writing an ASP application deployed
> throughout
> > > the
> > > > > company's intranet where all the workstations will be running
> Internet
> > > > > Explorer 6.0.
> > > > >
> > > > > It's a retail business, and some of the workstations are
> Point-Of-Sale
> > > and
> > > > > will need to have cash drawers and bar-code scanners.
> > > > >
> > > > > The project managers want this as a web-application because of the
> > ease
> > > of
> > > > > deployment and updates to the other stores. The problem is, I
don't
> > know
> > > > how
> > > > > to activate the cash drawers from within IE. Is there any kind of
> > > ActiveX
> > > > > control which can be plugged into IE to allow control over the
cash
> > > drawer
> > > > > from within IE? We don't have the cash drawers purchased yet, and
> are
> > > > > waiting to find out if anyone makes an ActiveX plug-in control and
> > cash
> > > > > drawer which will work from IE.
> > > > >
> > > > > Suggestions and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Scott
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: POS Cash Drawer with Internet Explorer? by Tom

Tom
Mon Jul 21 15:19:25 CDT 2003

To control the cash drawer and bar code scanner you'll have to lower the
security settings on the browser, and have Activex components control them.
You could use Citrix like Ray suggested, but I suspect that would be pricey
and has a little bit of upfront configuration.

If you wrote a fat client application, that gets updated automatically by a
server, you could have the best of both worlds.

Just my opinion.
If your committed to using IE, then you'll just have to bear in mind the
limitations that are there, and be sure to code around them.


"Scott A. Keen" <scott@scottkeen.com> wrote in message
news:uzWMz67TDHA.940@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> What's the main beef with using IE for the client? Is it that it's too
much
> hassle to write ActiveX controls to download to the client? Or is it that
> savvy users could mess-around with the URL and post bogus data?
>
> We're really looking to make a thin-client app, with all the processing
done
> by the server. It also makes deployment of updates much easier.
>
> I guess we could also write an ActiveDocument that gets loaded as an app
> inside of an IE web browser. I always thought that sort of thing was kinda
> kludgy.
>
> Really, the goals are:
> 1) thin client
> 2) easy deployment
> 3) works with cash drawer and bar code scanner devices
>
> I hope this isn't one of those, "pick any 2 out of 3" deals.
>
>
>
> "Tom B" <shuckle@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:u3Ithi7TDHA.2260@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Not much point in using PDA's as Cash Drawers were specifically
mentioned.
> >
> > Everything else I agree with. I'm sure you could write a bunch of
ActiveX
> > controls to be downloaded and installed on the IE client. But you're
> > probably better off writing an actual application anyway.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "Chris Barber" <chris@blue-canoe.co.uk.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> > news:%23sGQ8K7TDHA.3796@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Still - fraught with issues - not least of all security and the
> potential
> > > for fraud by IE savvy employees.
> > > Believe me - I've fired a few when I used to run bars a few years ago.
> > >
> > > Still - if they can use WinNT for service station internet kiosks and
> > > display screens then I suppose anything is possible. Have you
considered
> > > wireless PDA's with bar code scanners on them - my business partner
has
> > had
> > > a fair bit oif experience with that stuff. As long as no cash changing
> > hands
> > > then it should be OK.
> > >
> > > Have fun.
> > >
> > > Chris.
> > >
> > > "Scott A. Keen" <scott@scottkeen.com> wrote in message
> > > news:OaPgrG7TDHA.1552@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > LOL! It's in the concept planning stage. It's for a couople of local
> > > health
> > > > clubs which have a low-volume point-of-sale counter for the
occasional
> > > > member who wants to buy a bottle of water or a protein bar. Not high
> > > volume
> > > > retail.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Chris Barber" <chris@blue-canoe.co.uk.NOSPAM> wrote in message
> > > > news:OBsl176TDHA.2316@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Reliability would be horrible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Who the heck thought that one up? Let me know what brand the
stores
> > > are -
> > > > I
> > > > > reckon I could have a big shopping spree coming up!
> > > > >
> > > > > You would probably need a custom written browser add-in to be able
> to
> > do
> > > > > anything (unless you run it as a .htc and you could then
instantiate
> > > local
> > > > > side DLL's to do the work). But .... how to get the DLL's to the
> > client
> > > > > machines and get them installed - oh the fun we could have messing
> > with
> > > > > that!
> > > > >
> > > > > Chris.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Scott A. Keen" <scott@scottkeen.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:OpweZv6TDHA.1912@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm getting tasked with writing an ASP application deployed
> > throughout
> > > > the
> > > > > > company's intranet where all the workstations will be running
> > Internet
> > > > > > Explorer 6.0.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It's a retail business, and some of the workstations are
> > Point-Of-Sale
> > > > and
> > > > > > will need to have cash drawers and bar-code scanners.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The project managers want this as a web-application because of
the
> > > ease
> > > > of
> > > > > > deployment and updates to the other stores. The problem is, I
> don't
> > > know
> > > > > how
> > > > > > to activate the cash drawers from within IE. Is there any kind
of
> > > > ActiveX
> > > > > > control which can be plugged into IE to allow control over the
> cash
> > > > drawer
> > > > > > from within IE? We don't have the cash drawers purchased yet,
and
> > are
> > > > > > waiting to find out if anyone makes an ActiveX plug-in control
and
> > > cash
> > > > > > drawer which will work from IE.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Suggestions and recommendations would be greatly appreciated.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Scott
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Re: POS Cash Drawer with Internet Explorer? by jcochran

jcochran
Tue Jul 22 08:41:19 CDT 2003

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:16:38 -0400, "Scott A. Keen"
<scott@scottkeen.com> wrote:

>It's a retail business, and some of the workstations are Point-Of-Sale and
>will need to have cash drawers and bar-code scanners.

Okay, here's where you're thinking too hard. :)

Bar code scanners usually are a keyboard wedge type. That means
anything read by the scanner is simply input the same as if a user
typed the characters at a keyboard. There's nothing at all special
about the bar code scanners in terms of IE or your app.

Cash drawers are also pretty simple. It's usually triggered by a
command over a serial or parallel port similar to printing. All it
does is release a latch on the cash drawer, a spring pushes the drawer
out. Again nothing specific to IE or your app, though you might need
a control in your app to send the command signal or trigger the
utility that comes with your cash drawer.

Call the supplier of your POS hardware and ask for programming specs.
Tell them what you're doing, they will provide the code to do it.

Jeff

Re: POS Cash Drawer with Internet Explorer? by Ray

Ray
Tue Jul 22 08:59:45 CDT 2003

That's a damn good point, Jeff.

Ray at work

"Jeff Cochran" <jcochran.nospam@naplesgov.com> wrote in message
news:3f1f3e52.92840097@news.easynews.com...
> On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 13:16:38 -0400, "Scott A. Keen"
> <scott@scottkeen.com> wrote:
>
>
> Bar code scanners usually are a keyboard wedge type. That means
> anything read by the scanner is simply input the same as if a user
> typed the characters at a keyboard. There's nothing at all special
> about the bar code scanners in terms of IE or your app.