CDOSYS executes but takes TOO TOO long?

Hey all...
running w2k3/iis6 and trying to shorten the length of time that a simple 10
field ASP form takes to execute using CDOSYS. it takes about 50 seconds each
time...and I've no idea why?

any pointers here lads? on other servers the exact same script does it's job
in 3 seconds...but not this one?

???

Jim

Jon
Wed Feb 20 15:51:32 CST 2008

so, the ASP code is working but it takes too long on a given server......

have you contacted the server administrator ??

checked any logs ??

or ????

how are we supposed to help with this ?


"JVRudnick" <JVRudnick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:F516B9C6-E023-4DA4-81E0-0C45E8C7A344@microsoft.com...
> Hey all...
> running w2k3/iis6 and trying to shorten the length of time that a simple 10
> field ASP form takes to execute using CDOSYS. it takes about 50 seconds each
> time...and I've no idea why?
>
> any pointers here lads? on other servers the exact same script does it's job
> in 3 seconds...but not this one?
>
> ???
>
> Jim

Anthony
Wed Feb 20 16:30:04 CST 2008

"JVRudnick" <JVRudnick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:F516B9C6-E023-4DA4-81E0-0C45E8C7A344@microsoft.com...
> Hey all...
> running w2k3/iis6 and trying to shorten the length of time that a simple
10
> field ASP form takes to execute using CDOSYS. it takes about 50 seconds
each
> time...and I've no idea why?
>
> any pointers here lads? on other servers the exact same script does it's
job
> in 3 seconds...but not this one?
>

It might be worth you confirming which part of your script is taking most of
the time but its going to be the send. It will be some configuration
problem that is causing something like DNS lookups or user authentication to
take a long time.


--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

JVRudnick
Thu Feb 21 10:51:01 CST 2008

First thanks guys. Next, its on my own ded server so that makes me the
SysAdmin I suppose. Next, I do not know any manner to test "which" part of
the script is taking the time. Mailogs show it's in the outbound queue for
seconds, so I doubt that the problem is with MainEnablePro. It must be IMHO,
the script itself, yet as I said it runs in 3 secs on other servers. Hmmm,
maybe it's the library I'm using as it's still the w2k one... ie

METADATA
TYPE="typelib"
UUID="CD000000-8B95-11D1-82DB-00C04FB1625D"
NAME="CDO for Windows 2000 Library"

Anyone know, is there a more recent one for w2k3? Might that be "it" problem
wise?

Jim

Anthony
Fri Feb 22 13:25:54 CST 2008

"JVRudnick" <JVRudnick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:CEB2B5BF-C2C9-4C73-A9F9-45A71DE8EBEE@microsoft.com...
> First thanks guys. Next, its on my own ded server so that makes me the
> SysAdmin I suppose. Next, I do not know any manner to test "which" part of
> the script is taking the time.

Here is a noddy example.

Dim sPath
Dim oStream

sPath = Server.MapPath("/myLogs/" & Session.SessionID & ".log")
Dim fso : Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Dim oStream: Set oStream = fso.OpenTextFile(sPath, 8, True)

oStream.WriteLine "Script Started: " & Now

'Code building message in oMsg

oStream.WriteLine "Entering Send: " & Now

oMsg.Send

oStream.WriteLine "Exited Send:" & Now

oStream.Close


>Mailogs show it's in the outbound queue for
> seconds, so I doubt that the problem is with MainEnablePro. It must be
IMHO,

> the script itself, yet as I said it runs in 3 secs on other servers. Hmmm,
> maybe it's the library I'm using as it's still the w2k one... ie
>
> METADATA
> TYPE="typelib"
> UUID="CD000000-8B95-11D1-82DB-00C04FB1625D"
> NAME="CDO for Windows 2000 Library"
>
> Anyone know, is there a more recent one for w2k3? Might that be "it"
problem
> wise?
>

I doubt it. The GUID is the same on XP and 2003. Its the same component.

--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

JVRudnick
Sun Feb 24 14:52:00 CST 2008

Do you mean, Anthony, that I should just cut and paste that script into a new
.asp page, run it on the server in the domain root folder and then see what
happens?

ie is that how I'd get a report on same?

Jim

"Anthony Jones" wrote:

> "JVRudnick" <JVRudnick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:CEB2B5BF-C2C9-4C73-A9F9-45A71DE8EBEE@microsoft.com...
> > First thanks guys. Next, its on my own ded server so that makes me the
> > SysAdmin I suppose. Next, I do not know any manner to test "which" part of
> > the script is taking the time.
>
> Here is a noddy example.
>
> Dim sPath
> Dim oStream
>
> sPath = Server.MapPath("/myLogs/" & Session.SessionID & ".log")
> Dim fso : Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
> Dim oStream: Set oStream = fso.OpenTextFile(sPath, 8, True)
>
> oStream.WriteLine "Script Started: " & Now
>
> 'Code building message in oMsg
>
> oStream.WriteLine "Entering Send: " & Now
>
> oMsg.Send
>
> oStream.WriteLine "Exited Send:" & Now
>
> oStream.Close
>
>
> >Mailogs show it's in the outbound queue for
> > seconds, so I doubt that the problem is with MainEnablePro. It must be
> IMHO,
>
> > the script itself, yet as I said it runs in 3 secs on other servers. Hmmm,
> > maybe it's the library I'm using as it's still the w2k one... ie
> >
> > METADATA
> > TYPE="typelib"
> > UUID="CD000000-8B95-11D1-82DB-00C04FB1625D"
> > NAME="CDO for Windows 2000 Library"
> >
> > Anyone know, is there a more recent one for w2k3? Might that be "it"
> problem
> > wise?
> >
>
> I doubt it. The GUID is the same on XP and 2003. Its the same component.
>
> --
> Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET
>
>
>

JVRudnick
Sun Feb 24 15:16:00 CST 2008

Hmm....got that script up and running ok - but it seems to choke? I properly
put all where the items belong, but when the script hits the oMail.SEND line,
it chokes (my var is oMail for this page btw)?

The logs quite properly show the Script Started and Entering Send lines and
times...but as the script then errors out with nothing more than a 2 line
error --

error '8004020f'
/sendForm.asp, line 135

-- I'm lost. Have no exp using this method to write a timing handler....

Can you offer why the simple addition of this item makes the SEND function
quit before it even starts?

Jim

JVRudnick
Sun Feb 24 15:29:01 CST 2008

Ignore what's above....sorry, just can't type today!

Here's the log --

Script Started: 2/24/2008 3:24:42 PM
Entering Send: 2/24/2008 3:24:42 PM
Exited Send:2/24/2008 3:25:15 PM

As you can see, the SEND function worked in less than a second.

So why those extra 48 seconds (as it averages about 50 in total) ???

Jim

"JVRudnick" wrote:

> Hmm....got that script up and running ok - but it seems to choke? I properly
> put all where the items belong, but when the script hits the oMail.SEND line,
> it chokes (my var is oMail for this page btw)?
>
> The logs quite properly show the Script Started and Entering Send lines and
> times...but as the script then errors out with nothing more than a 2 line
> error --
>
> error '8004020f'
> /sendForm.asp, line 135
>
> -- I'm lost. Have no exp using this method to write a timing handler....
>
> Can you offer why the simple addition of this item makes the SEND function
> quit before it even starts?
>
> Jim
>

Anthony
Sun Feb 24 15:47:14 CST 2008


"JVRudnick" <JVRudnick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:8CA1BC56-AC5F-4639-AEE8-5E2B1D65146A@microsoft.com...
> Ignore what's above....sorry, just can't type today!
>
> Here's the log --
>
> Script Started: 2/24/2008 3:24:42 PM
> Entering Send: 2/24/2008 3:24:42 PM
> Exited Send:2/24/2008 3:25:15 PM
>
> As you can see, the SEND function worked in less than a second.
>
> So why those extra 48 seconds (as it averages about 50 in total) ???
>


Is that how you read it? What I see is the send function alone taking 33
seconds to complete. You have placed the "Entrying send" and "Exiting send"
log lines directly adjacent either side of the call to send, right?


--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

JVRudnick
Mon Feb 25 07:23:01 CST 2008

good gosh...you're absolutely right! I not only couldn't type yesterday, but
obviously couldn't read a log either!

that mea culpa stated....I agree. 33 seconds is the time it too, and yes the
lines are properly placed around the oMail.SEND line too.

So...why? that's what's got me stumped!

3 seconds on one server and 33 on the other.....

?

Jim

"Anthony Jones" wrote:

>
> "JVRudnick" <JVRudnick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8CA1BC56-AC5F-4639-AEE8-5E2B1D65146A@microsoft.com...
> > Ignore what's above....sorry, just can't type today!
> >
> > Here's the log --
> >
> > Script Started: 2/24/2008 3:24:42 PM
> > Entering Send: 2/24/2008 3:24:42 PM
> > Exited Send:2/24/2008 3:25:15 PM
> >
> > As you can see, the SEND function worked in less than a second.
> >
> > So why those extra 48 seconds (as it averages about 50 in total) ???
> >
>
>
> Is that how you read it? What I see is the send function alone taking 33
> seconds to complete. You have placed the "Entrying send" and "Exiting send"
> log lines directly adjacent either side of the call to send, right?
>
>
> --
> Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET
>
>
>

Anthony
Tue Feb 26 03:26:54 CST 2008

"JVRudnick" <JVRudnick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3B0BF3E0-0B9B-4BFA-ACCF-8DD07C2F1D4E@microsoft.com...
> good gosh...you're absolutely right! I not only couldn't type yesterday,
but
> obviously couldn't read a log either!
>
> that mea culpa stated....I agree. 33 seconds is the time it too, and yes
the
> lines are properly placed around the oMail.SEND line too.
>
> So...why? that's what's got me stumped!
>
> 3 seconds on one server and 33 on the other.....
>
> ?


Ok so we've established it isn't your script its the SMTP configuration.

Are the speedier servers using the same SMTP server?
Are you using the local SMTP server on the Web Server or another server?
Is it Exchange?
Can you review the authentication requirements of the SMTP server?
Does you script run as the anonymous user or does it use integrated
security?


--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

JVRudnick
Wed Feb 27 14:28:01 CST 2008

yes, same SMTP server being used on both boxes

yes, same SMTP setup for both ME and IIS...ie all checkboxes are the same!

not using Exchange at all

authentication is the plain jane MailEnablePro integrated authentication
again on both servers....

script is as follows (without message text which is immaterial) --
=========================================
<!--
METADATA
TYPE="typelib"
UUID="CD000000-8B95-11D1-82DB-00C04FB1625D"
NAME="CDO for Windows 2000 Library"
-->


Set oMail = Server.CreateObject("CDO.Message")

Set oMailConfig = Server.CreateObject ("CDO.Configuration")

oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpserver") = "mail.domainname.com"

oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpserverport") = 25

oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/sendusing") = 2

oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpconnectiontimeout") = 60

oMailConfig.Fields.Update

Set oMail.Configuration = oMailConfig

oMail.From = "admin@domainname.com"
' from this account which is valid on this server

oMail.To = "jrudnick@domainname.com"
' this account ALSO on same server and valid too

oMail.Subject = "Website Email Buyer/Seller Form"

MessageBody = "text goes here"
' message is here via request.form from page before...

oMail.HTMLBody = MessageBody

oMail. SEND
Set oMail = Nothing

Set oMailConfig = Nothing

Response.Redirect("thanks.asp")
=================================================


This is pretty simple. Works in 3 seconds on one server and about 40 or so
on the new one.

Why? What'm I doing wrong here...this is SO dang dumb...I'm positive I've
got a simple mistake...but can NOT find it...

Sigh....

Jim



"Anthony Jones" wrote:

> Ok so we've established it isn't your script its the SMTP configuration.
>
> Are the speedier servers using the same SMTP server?
> Are you using the local SMTP server on the Web Server or another server?
> Is it Exchange?
> Can you review the authentication requirements of the SMTP server?
> Does you script run as the anonymous user or does it use integrated
> security?
>
>
> --
> Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET
>
>
>

Anthony
Thu Feb 28 01:53:50 CST 2008

"JVRudnick" <JVRudnick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3957B156-20D6-42F0-A6BF-34F80C79610E@microsoft.com...
> yes, same SMTP server being used on both boxes
>
> yes, same SMTP setup for both ME and IIS...ie all checkboxes are the same!
>
> not using Exchange at all
>
> authentication is the plain jane MailEnablePro integrated authentication
> again on both servers....
>
> script is as follows (without message text which is immaterial) --
> =========================================
> <!--
> METADATA
> TYPE="typelib"
> UUID="CD000000-8B95-11D1-82DB-00C04FB1625D"
> NAME="CDO for Windows 2000 Library"
> -->
>
>
> Set oMail = Server.CreateObject("CDO.Message")
>
> Set oMailConfig = Server.CreateObject ("CDO.Configuration")
>
>
oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpserve
r") = "mail.domainname.com"
>
>
oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpserve
rport") = 25
>
>
oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/sendusing
") = 2
>
>
oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpconne
ctiontimeout") = 60
>
> oMailConfig.Fields.Update
>
> Set oMail.Configuration = oMailConfig
>
> oMail.From = "admin@domainname.com"
> ' from this account which is valid on this server
>
> oMail.To = "jrudnick@domainname.com"
> ' this account ALSO on same server and valid too
>
> oMail.Subject = "Website Email Buyer/Seller Form"
>
> MessageBody = "text goes here"
> ' message is here via request.form from page before...
>
> oMail.HTMLBody = MessageBody
>
> oMail. SEND
> Set oMail = Nothing
>
> Set oMailConfig = Nothing
>
> Response.Redirect("thanks.asp")
> =================================================
>
>
> This is pretty simple. Works in 3 seconds on one server and about 40 or so
> on the new one.
>
> Why? What'm I doing wrong here...this is SO dang dumb...I'm positive I've
> got a simple mistake...but can NOT find it...
>
> Sigh....
>


If you reduce the connection timeout to say 20 seconds does it fail. My
guess it does. The web server is struggling to authenticate with the mail
server. Do both servers belong to the same domain, do they have good access
to a domain controller, is the web server trusted for delegation?


--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

JVRudnick
Thu Feb 28 08:10:01 CST 2008

I too believe that there is a "struggle" going on. Both servers are ded
servers from thePlanet and no are not related at all - ie both have diff
clients and domains on them but they both are w2k3/SP2/iis6 boxes. Domain
controller and trusted for delegation are beyond my ken tho...what do you
mean there?

Jim

"Anthony Jones" wrote:

> "JVRudnick" <JVRudnick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3957B156-20D6-42F0-A6BF-34F80C79610E@microsoft.com...
> > yes, same SMTP server being used on both boxes
> >
> > yes, same SMTP setup for both ME and IIS...ie all checkboxes are the same!
> >
> > not using Exchange at all
> >
> > authentication is the plain jane MailEnablePro integrated authentication
> > again on both servers....
> >
> > script is as follows (without message text which is immaterial) --
> > =========================================
> > <!--
> > METADATA
> > TYPE="typelib"
> > UUID="CD000000-8B95-11D1-82DB-00C04FB1625D"
> > NAME="CDO for Windows 2000 Library"
> > -->
> >
> >
> > Set oMail = Server.CreateObject("CDO.Message")
> >
> > Set oMailConfig = Server.CreateObject ("CDO.Configuration")
> >
> >
> oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpserve
> r") = "mail.domainname.com"
> >
> >
> oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpserve
> rport") = 25
> >
> >
> oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/sendusing
> ") = 2
> >
> >
> oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpconne
> ctiontimeout") = 60
> >
> > oMailConfig.Fields.Update
> >
> > Set oMail.Configuration = oMailConfig
> >
> > oMail.From = "admin@domainname.com"
> > ' from this account which is valid on this server
> >
> > oMail.To = "jrudnick@domainname.com"
> > ' this account ALSO on same server and valid too
> >
> > oMail.Subject = "Website Email Buyer/Seller Form"
> >
> > MessageBody = "text goes here"
> > ' message is here via request.form from page before...
> >
> > oMail.HTMLBody = MessageBody
> >
> > oMail. SEND
> > Set oMail = Nothing
> >
> > Set oMailConfig = Nothing
> >
> > Response.Redirect("thanks.asp")
> > =================================================
> >
> >
> > This is pretty simple. Works in 3 seconds on one server and about 40 or so
> > on the new one.
> >
> > Why? What'm I doing wrong here...this is SO dang dumb...I'm positive I've
> > got a simple mistake...but can NOT find it...
> >
> > Sigh....
> >
>
>
> If you reduce the connection timeout to say 20 seconds does it fail. My
> guess it does. The web server is struggling to authenticate with the mail
> server. Do both servers belong to the same domain, do they have good access
> to a domain controller, is the web server trusted for delegation?
>
>
> --
> Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET
>
>
>

JVRudnick
Thu Feb 28 09:03:03 CST 2008

thinking here....

could we take this 'off' this forum and converse via email?

let me know if that's okay with you? I've got some results from a component
test and further data on this, but don't want to "hog" any bandwidth for
others...

jrudnick at kkti dot com

:-)

Jim

"JVRudnick" wrote:

> I too believe that there is a "struggle" going on. Both servers are ded
> servers from thePlanet and no are not related at all - ie both have diff
> clients and domains on them but they both are w2k3/SP2/iis6 boxes. Domain
> controller and trusted for delegation are beyond my ken tho...what do you
> mean there?
>
> Jim
>
> "Anthony Jones" wrote:
>
> > "JVRudnick" <JVRudnick@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:3957B156-20D6-42F0-A6BF-34F80C79610E@microsoft.com...
> > > yes, same SMTP server being used on both boxes
> > >
> > > yes, same SMTP setup for both ME and IIS...ie all checkboxes are the same!
> > >
> > > not using Exchange at all
> > >
> > > authentication is the plain jane MailEnablePro integrated authentication
> > > again on both servers....
> > >
> > > script is as follows (without message text which is immaterial) --
> > > =========================================
> > > <!--
> > > METADATA
> > > TYPE="typelib"
> > > UUID="CD000000-8B95-11D1-82DB-00C04FB1625D"
> > > NAME="CDO for Windows 2000 Library"
> > > -->
> > >
> > >
> > > Set oMail = Server.CreateObject("CDO.Message")
> > >
> > > Set oMailConfig = Server.CreateObject ("CDO.Configuration")
> > >
> > >
> > oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpserve
> > r") = "mail.domainname.com"
> > >
> > >
> > oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpserve
> > rport") = 25
> > >
> > >
> > oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/sendusing
> > ") = 2
> > >
> > >
> > oMailConfig.Fields("http://schemas.microsoft.com/cdo/configuration/smtpconne
> > ctiontimeout") = 60
> > >
> > > oMailConfig.Fields.Update
> > >
> > > Set oMail.Configuration = oMailConfig
> > >
> > > oMail.From = "admin@domainname.com"
> > > ' from this account which is valid on this server
> > >
> > > oMail.To = "jrudnick@domainname.com"
> > > ' this account ALSO on same server and valid too
> > >
> > > oMail.Subject = "Website Email Buyer/Seller Form"
> > >
> > > MessageBody = "text goes here"
> > > ' message is here via request.form from page before...
> > >
> > > oMail.HTMLBody = MessageBody
> > >
> > > oMail. SEND
> > > Set oMail = Nothing
> > >
> > > Set oMailConfig = Nothing
> > >
> > > Response.Redirect("thanks.asp")
> > > =================================================
> > >
> > >
> > > This is pretty simple. Works in 3 seconds on one server and about 40 or so
> > > on the new one.
> > >
> > > Why? What'm I doing wrong here...this is SO dang dumb...I'm positive I've
> > > got a simple mistake...but can NOT find it...
> > >
> > > Sigh....
> > >
> >
> >
> > If you reduce the connection timeout to say 20 seconds does it fail. My
> > guess it does. The web server is struggling to authenticate with the mail
> > server. Do both servers belong to the same domain, do they have good access
> > to a domain controller, is the web server trusted for delegation?
> >
> >
> > --
> > Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET
> >
> >
> >